Booyah!: Cyborg Appreciation 2022

[Digifiend]

Well, Firestorm at least WAS a Justice Leaguer in the comics already (he joined in JLA #179 published in 1980, the year Cyborg debuted!). Cyborg didn't join for another 20 years or so!

[BradleyFan]

All these feats are batgod shenanigans, and that's cool. Vic is highly intelligent and was interfaced with a computer, but now has a mother box merged with him. The capability of Cyborg to do any of the things you mentioned about Batman is so far beyond the pale its ridiculous. Biased writers are the ones who are clueless to keeping and using Vic on the Justice League as tech specialist. Count me as one of the many readers that didn't bust one off in my pants when Bruce was made God of technology over Cyborg, that crap bordered on criminal ! However, looking at what Victor is and who the writers are, it made perfect sense.

It's criminal how Cyborg was handled. To be perfectly fair, there's no reason Cyborg shouldn't be (at the very least) on par with the rest of the League in terms of staying power. It's been more than a decade and if DC actually tried to push Cyborg the same way they pushed some of the other characters during New 52 (Aquaman, for instance) then Cyborg would probably have more of a following.

A lot of us knew that Cyborg was only placed on the League for tokenism, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have been respected and valued as a potential franchise. John Sempter Jr and David Walker did the best they could with the character but the editors just wouldn't get out of the way. And now we're here. Cyborg doesn't have an ongoing. He doesn't have any presence outside of the comics (and no, I don't count Teen Titans Go, or Doom Patrol). His supporting cast is pretty much in limbo and I'm pretty sure they're never coming back.

The character deserved so much more than simply being DC's token Black guy.

[BlackClaw]

Truly a shame how Cyborg was handled. Man got promoted to being a Justice League founder but editorial insisted on him repeating the same tired “man or machine, woe as me” bs. Despite some writers like David Walker wanting to evolve him. And now he might be screwed for the foreseeable future thanks to Ray Fishers beef with WB.

[LukeCagefan]

Truly a shame how Cyborg was handled. Man got promoted to being a Justice League founder but editorial insisted on him repeating the same tired “man or machine, woe as me” bs. Despite some writers like David Walker wanting to evolve him. And now he might be screwed for the foreseeable future thanks to Ray Fishers need with WB.

I'd love to see him evolve and get rid of that faceplate and have some fun.

[Holt]

Some Tuesday tea.
https://twitter.com/DavidWalker1201/...29224911142912

[Frontier]

Some Tuesday tea.
https://twitter.com/DavidWalker1201/...29224911142912

Jeez, that sounds rough.

Was Johns part of this "opposition?"

[sifighter]

Cyborg at least gets a cool moment in Dark Crisis #2 today

spoilers:

He gets a dramatic posing moment where he finishes off Cyborg Superman to save Jon Kent as Henshaw attempts to continue their fight. And by finishing him off I mean he stomps in his head and says “I’m sick of you giving cyborgs a bad name”.

end of spoilers

[Johnny]

Aside from that thing with the tattoos, I don't really see anything new here. It hasn't exactly been a secret that editorial never cared about restoring Cyborg's humanity.

[BlackClaw]

Some Tuesday tea.
https://twitter.com/DavidWalker1201/...29224911142912

“Thugged out.”

YIKES.

[skyvolt2000]

Aside from that thing with the tattoos, I don't see anything new here. It hasn't exactly been a secret that editorial's only idea for the character was the "man vs machine" thing.

Well there is some BONUS tea to that....

You do know WHO the editor was??? Same editor on Static Shock and Black Lightening Cold Dead Hands.

Harvey Richards. A black man. Who has already been aired out by Marc Bernardin.

https://twitter.com/marcbernardin/st...68145261379586

Issue 8 was my first real go at Static. And Harvey made it awful. Edits that pulled the story in directions I didn’t like. Changes I didn’t agree with. Vetoing almost every decision I wanted to make. It got to the point where an email from him would make me physically sick.

When I turned in the first draft of the script for issue 8, the note I got back was “I just don’t think you understand how superhero stories work.”

When I got the news of the cancellation, it was greeted with a sigh of relief. I didn’t write a comic book for years after that. It broke me.

For all the cries of we need black folks behind the scenes and in charge. Here is an example of why that is not always a good thing.

And now it makes sense Richards has not SNIFF employment anywhere despite 25 yeas experience.

[king81992]

Cyborg at least gets a cool moment in Dark Crisis #2 today

spoilers:

He gets a dramatic posing moment where he finishes off Cyborg Superman to save Jon Kent as Henshaw attempts to continue their fight. And by finishing him off I mean he stomps in his head and says “I’m sick of you giving cyborgs a bad name”.

end of spoilers

Glad to see he and Gar are separate again.

[sifighter]

Glad to see he and Gar are separate again.

Yeah Williamson just completely ignores that Plot point completely. Especially considering what ended up happening to Gar.

[LukeCagefan]

Yeah Williamson just completely ignores that Plot point completely. Especially considering what ended up happening to Gar.

What happened between Vic & Gar?

[sifighter]

What happened between Vic & Gar?

In Titans Academy they got fused together and then separated via Raven’s magic. It was some weird construct thing, not 100% how to explain it.

In Dark Crisis Gar got shot in the face by Deathstroke. He’s apparently still alive as the book calls out, he’s just really wounded. I’m assuming since Vic is still standing and able to crush Cyborg Superman with his feet and that Gar was shot is an indication they are no longer bonded.

[LukeCagefan]

In Titans Academy they got fused together and then separated via Raven’s magic. It was some weird construct thing, not 100% how to explain it.

In Dark Crisis Gar got shot in the face by Deathstroke. He’s apparently still alive as the book calls out, he’s just really wounded. I’m assuming since Vic is still standing and able to crush Cyborg Superman with his feet and that Gar was shot is an indication they are no longer bonded.

Oh! Makes sense! That being said, are there any good Cyborg x Raven stories I can read? I really like this pairing lol