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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I understand what the message of the book was and that these people were meant to represent something outside fighting Supervillains (although then they all show up to help fight off Warrior Woman and Hate-Monger), and I think that's fine in isolation.

    In a general sense I just don't think we need a bunch of people calling themselves Captain America.
    I could see them merging with Cap's old Stars and Stripes network into a new Liberty Legion...sort of an informal support network like the Buckaroo Banzai Blue Blaze Irregulars. But not calling themselves Captain America.

    Quote Originally Posted by phonogram12 View Post
    Honestly? I think they're pretty harmless. They're supporting characters at best who I don't even think have shown up outside of that mini other than this latest Cap #0. The only other Cap that can be taken seriously at all is Sam.
    Sam's problem with being Cap is the same one John Walker had. He brought his personal belief of what Cap should be and should be doing dictate what he did as Cap. John was too far right and Sam was too far left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0013 View Post
    I could see them merging with Cap's old Stars and Stripes network into a new Liberty Legion...sort of an informal support network like the Buckaroo Banzai Blue Blaze Irregulars. But not calling themselves Captain America.



    Sam's problem with being Cap is the same one John Walker had. He brought his personal belief of what Cap should be and should be doing dictate what he did as Cap. John was too far right and Sam was too far left.
    And Steve?
    “The Avengers have been the one point of stability in my entire life. And if The Avengers call… then The Scarlet Witch will always answer.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARkadelphia View Post
    And Steve?
    In what way? How Steve is politically? Strict Constitutionalist. So long as you are not committing or advocating for violence or oppression he will stand up for your rights and protect you.

    Like disapproving of Asp being a stripper.
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    Or Defending and 'artist' who's material is offensive.
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    Buy cross the line and he will put a boot in your ass.

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    Art by Alan Weiss! Cap charges Owen Reece, the Molecule Man, in Avengers #216. (Not a pinup effect, by the way — Cap is literally dodging star-shaped projectiles being conjured and hurled at him.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Cap punching above his weight .
    Oh, here's a fun one. Not a Cosmic foe this time, though still well-above his weight. Incredible Hulk #406, Peter David era with Gary Frank art.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevacious View Post
    Oh, here's a fun one. Not a Cosmic foe this time, though still well-above his weight. Incredible Hulk #406, Peter David era with Gary Frank art.


    While I'm a fan of both (although of Cap just a bit more), the pressure point thing smacks a little of that time Bats knocked the wind out of Hulk.

    As an aside, this is Gary Frank art, right? Does this guy still do comics?
    Keep in mind that you have about as much chance of changing my mind as I do of changing yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonogram12 View Post
    While I'm a fan of both (although of Cap just a bit more), the pressure point thing smacks a little of that time Bats knocked the wind out of Hulk.
    It's all in the momentum .
    As an aside, this is Gary Frank art, right? Does this guy still do comics?
    He does covers and still does comics with Geoff Johns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonogram12 View Post
    As an aside, this is Gary Frank art, right? Does this guy still do comics?
    Mostly with DC. If I'm not mistaken, his last projects were Doomsday Clock and the third volume of Batman Earth One. Don't know what he's currently working on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    It's all in the momentum .
    I may be biased, after all, he is my all-time favorite artist, but the Jose Luiz Garcia Lopez art really sold it, IMHO.

    Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevacious View Post
    Art by Alan Weiss! Cap charges Owen Reece, the Molecule Man, in Avengers #216. (Not a pinup effect, by the way — Cap is literally dodging star-shaped projectiles being conjured and hurled at him.)

    He speaks truth here.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomads1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    He does covers and still does comics with Geoff Johns.
    Mostly with DC. If I'm not mistaken, his last projects were Doomsday Clock and the third volume of Batman Earth One. Don't know what he's currently working on.

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    Yeah! The last time he did any interior artwork for Marvel Comics was back in 2007


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    Dat Namora .

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    The moment your big plan comes crashing down. Catching up to Machinesmith in Cap #453.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevacious View Post
    The moment your big plan comes crashing down. Catching up to Machinesmith in Cap #453.

    That was the end of Man Without A Country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0013 View Post
    That was the end of Man Without A Country?
    Yeah! Legendarily Epic (IMHO):


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