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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    Rise does kinda feel like it's building towards some kind of new Moira life or personality
    or a "Clean state"

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    And we continue with making Moria even worse by making her an ally of Enigma, that I will say, for the moment, is not matching the build up that he had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordUltimus View Post
    And we continue with making Moria even worse by making her an ally of Enigma, that I will say, for the moment, is not matching the build up that he had.
    Crazy theory but what is Xavier weaponized her against Enigma when he went into her head?

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    Xavier absolutely planted something in her mind before he left. She's gonna be good...ish at the least by the end

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    Xavier absolutely planted something in her mind before he left. She's gonna be good...ish at the least by the end
    Can they retcon her being a mutant too while they're at it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    Xavier absolutely planted something in her mind before he left. She's gonna be good...ish at the least by the end
    So the kind and empathetic Moira we knew before was only because she was mind f**ked by Xavier.

    Not a great solution...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    So the kind and empathetic Moira we knew before was only because she was mind f**ked by Xavier.

    Not a great solution...
    At this point i don't think there is room for a great or even moral solution at all anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    So the kind and empathetic Moira we knew before was only because she was mind f**ked by Xavier.

    Not a great solution...
    No, that is not at all what happened in the story. Nothing that Charles did changes any of the reinterpretation of Moira's appearances by Hickman. This is just something that has had no effect on her history and will only matter in the future. Even if Moira does something with this revelation that can rewrite her history to a version that resembles the original it would still be of her own choice as Charles says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cranger View Post
    No, that is not at all what happened in the story. Nothing that Charles did changes any of the reinterpretation of Moira's appearances by Hickman. This is just something that has had no effect on her history and will only matter in the future. Even if Moira does something with this revelation that can rewrite her history to a version that resembles the original it would still be of her own choice as Charles says.
    I'm aware it isn't what happened. But the idea that it might is offensive all the same

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    If you miss the old Moira read the X-Men 97 comic. She appears on a couple of pages. And of course, none of the Krakoa stuff exists in that continuity, so she's her old self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    If you miss the old Moira read the X-Men 97 comic. She appears on a couple of pages. And of course, none of the Krakoa stuff exists in that continuity, so she's her old self.
    So can she be brought into 616?

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    So predictions on where Moira lands...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    So predictions on where Moira lands...?
    I think she's getting primed for, if not a full redemption arc, because time is limited, at least some sort of redemption act. I'm very curious to find out if she's going to be restored to her human self before it's all said and done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordUltimus View Post
    Can they retcon her being a mutant too while they're at it?
    Right this isn't Moria the true Moria was killed by Mystique curring the Legecy Virus. I wish Xavior had killed Moriana restarted the time line and eatssrd Moria knowledge of being s Mutant lol.
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    What does Marvel have against human allies?

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