Superhero Cliches you are tired of.

[mathew101281]

1. Supervillains becoming too heroic It works in some instances, but when you do it too much you run into a situation where you're reforming iconic villains faster than you're making them, leaving only new unproven villains or villains no one cares about. (see Xmen).

2. Every villain having some kind of deep connection to a hero.

3. "vigilantes" being treated differently than traditional superheroes. What is the difference exactly? Does the existence of superpowers somehow make you less of a vigilante?

[Primal Slayer]

Having a loved one murdered/die to encourage them to become a superhero.

[Alpha]

Having a loved one murdered/die to encourage them to become a superhero.

The Geoff Johns technique

[Gaius]

"I have a body count higher than real life war criminals but I was bullied once so it's all good"

Proper terminology being Harley Quinn Special.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

I disagree with the first because the villians vastly outnumber the heroes. There are plenty of deep cuts to revitalize.

[superduperman]

Letting that one guy who is clearly a murderer walk around free just because he's an "anti-hero". Deathstroke, Punisher, Wolverine, I'm looking in your general direction. Superman should have snapped up Deathstroke a long time ago and just thrown him behind bars. Harley Quinn also falls into this category. But at least with someone like Deathstroke, the regular heroes aren't hanging out with him on a regular basis like they do Quinn.

[The Kid]

The secret identity is one I don't really care much anymore outside for a few characters

[Frontier]

Letting that one guy who is clearly a murderer walk around free just because he's an "anti-hero". Deathstroke, Punisher, Wolverine, I'm looking in your general direction. Superman should have snapped up Deathstroke a long time ago and just thrown him behind bars. Harley Quinn also falls into this category. But at least with someone like Deathstroke, the regular heroes aren't hanging out with him on a regular basis like they do Quinn.

I think Christopher Priest addressed this to where Superman put Deathstroke in prison, but it didn't take.

[John Venus]

"If you kill this guy who killed 7000 people you will be just as bad as he is!" Villains who are allowed to get away with huge body counts in general. There is also treating characters who believe in reformation as naive at best or quacks at worst. Miller's The Dark Knight Returns was especially guilty of this. Equating mental illness with evil/villainy.

Popular characters becoming invincible. Batman becomes uber popular and suddenly he can beat the JL and Legion of Doom and everybody bows down to him whilst simultaneously having trouble dealing with a guy who leaves behind clues. Harley Quinn becomes popular and suddenly she can get the drop on Batman and outmanuver Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman while stealing the latter's lasso and making a clean break for it.

Deathstroke becomes popular/writers pet so now all his sins 'weren't that bad' and the Titans are fully willing to work with him and even over look some of the bad stuff he did.

[9th.]

Superheroes going off the deep end if they kill 1 villain.

[Alan2099]

You're an evil unrepentant villain, but you're also a cute girl so everything is forgiven.

You know this guy who you've been reading about for 30 years or more. They have a DARK SECRET where they did some morally corrupt thing and nobody has bothered to mention it until now.

Batman's acting a like a jerk again. We should just all sit the and take it as he badmouths us.

"The Joker is the scariest villain ever!!!" says other villain that could kill the Joker from three blocks away just by pointing in his general direction.

"We're going to form an all new team! Obviously we need to call it Justice League something."

Here's some very flimsy evidence that makes it look like a beloved hero is committing some sort of crime. Every one should act like they're 100% guilty and should hunt them down like dogs.

[Primal Slayer]

Super powered beings being taken down easily by non-powered beings (Cheetah vs. Catwoman)

[king81992]

1. Supervillains becoming too heroic It works in some instances, but when you do it too much you run into a situation where you're reforming iconic villains faster than you're making them, leaving only new unproven villains or villains no one cares about. (see Xmen).

2. Every villain having some kind of deep connection to a hero.

3. "vigilantes" being treated differently than traditional superheroes. What is the difference exactly? Does the existence of superpowers somehow make you less of a vigilante?

Honestly, DC's 'heroic' villains aren't actually heroic, certain writers and their fanbases pretend those characters are heroic while ignoring or trying to justify their crimes.

[king81992]

Letting that one guy who is clearly a murderer walk around free just because he's an "anti-hero". Deathstroke, Punisher, Wolverine, I'm looking in your general direction. Superman should have snapped up Deathstroke a long time ago and just thrown him behind bars. Harley Quinn also falls into this category. But at least with someone like Deathstroke, the regular heroes aren't hanging out with him on a regular basis like they do Quinn.

Deathstroke is a villain that certain writers and fans pretend is an antihero. He and Punisher are weird mirrors of each other:

Punisher- Writers go out of their way to show that Frank is part of the problem and making things worse, fans(or at least the people who proudly walk around with his logo) think that Frank is the solution and justified.

Deathstroke- Certain writers whitewash him and pretend he did nothing wrong or has 'noble' traits, some fans view him as an antihero and other view him as the villain he is.

[superduperman]

You're an evil unrepentant villain, but you're also a cute girl so everything is forgiven.

You know this guy who you've been reading about for 30 years or more. They have a DARK SECRET where they did some morally corrupt thing and nobody has bothered to mention it until now.

Batman's acting a like a jerk again. We should just all sit the and take it as he badmouths us.

"The Joker is the scariest villain ever!!!" says other villain that could kill the Joker from three blocks away just by pointing in his general direction.

"We're going to form an all new team! Obviously we need to call it Justice League something."

Here's some very flimsy evidence that makes it look like a beloved hero is committing some sort of crime. Every one should act like they're 100% guilty and should hunt them down like dogs.

THIS! He's a guy in clown makeup. Not Darkseid. He's also got a body count somewhere in the, what, triple digits? I don't care how "crazy" you claim to be, you're getting buried under Blackgate! With a needle in the arm. As for Harley Quinn, she's not getting out until she's in her 70s. And something like the Suicide Squad isn't signing up a girl whose only ability is she hits people with a baseball bat and acts crazy. They'll just send the giant shark man to eat everyone.