Opinion, Do you perfer to read or watch about High School Peter or Adult Peter?

[PCN24454]

I was a kid when Spider-Man: The Animated Series came out with an adult Peter in college with adult friends and I never had any problems.

Isn't that the problem in itself? Rather than thinking about what's best for Spider-Man, you're thinking about your Spider-Man. That on its own is fine, but you're acting as though Dragon Ball started out with Dragon Ball Z.

If we're only going to treat high school Peter as a stepping stone for adult Peter, then the history doesn't actually matter.

[Vortex85]

Isn't that the problem in itself? Rather than thinking about what's best for Spider-Man, you're thinking about your Spider-Man. That on its own is fine, but you're acting as though Dragon Ball started out with Dragon Ball Z.

If we're only going to treat high school Peter as a stepping stone for adult Peter, then the history doesn't actually matter.

It sounds like you are trying to argue that Dragon Ball doesn't matter because it led to Dragon Ball Z, and then Dragon Ball Z doesn't matter because it led to Dragon Ball Super. That argument doesn't hold water.

If anything, in regard to Spider-Man, keeping Peter in high school makes history matter less because nothing is ever changing so why bother reading all the previous stories? At least with Spider-Man there is a good reason to go back and read the classic stories because there was real growth and change that led to where he is today.

As much as I love the marriage and want to see it return, removing it from the book made it more valuable because it stands out on its own as a unique era of Spider-Man history that you can only get by going back and reading those issues between '87-07.

[Mercwmouth12]

It sounds like you are trying to argue that Dragon Ball doesn't matter because it led to Dragon Ball Z, and then Dragon Ball Z doesn't matter because it led to Dragon Ball Super. That argument doesn't hold water.

If anything, in regard to Spider-Man, keeping Peter in high school makes history matter less because nothing is ever changing so why bother reading all the previous stories? At least with Spider-Man there is a good reason to go back and read the classic stories because there was real growth and change that led to where he is today.

As much as I love the marriage and want to see it return, removing it from the book made it more valuable because it stands out on its own as a unique era of Spider-Man history that you can only get by going back and reading those issues between '87-07.

True but also now it feels like with all the other Spider characters around and how things progress it's now a natural progress for the character and allow him to also build and create his own legacy in the 616

[Vortex85]

True but also now it feels like with all the other Spider characters around and how things progress it's now a natural progress for the character and allow him to also build and create his own legacy in the 616

Dude, I am 100% on board with all the reasons to bring the marriage back, including this one. Another thing is the genie in the bottle with MJ is out and can't be put back in, so frankly, seeing Peter date around (in 616 main continuity under the false premise it may go somewhere) sucks! Like who cares about those relationships when we know Peter and MJ are the real deal?

[Kevinroc]

Isn't that the problem in itself? Rather than thinking about what's best for Spider-Man, you're thinking about your Spider-Man. That on its own is fine, but you're acting as though Dragon Ball started out with Dragon Ball Z.

If we're only going to treat high school Peter as a stepping stone for adult Peter, then the history doesn't actually matter.

I hate to tell you this but none of this actually matters. And we've seen successful Spider-Man releases depicting the character in High School, in College, and as a College Graduate with a job. Acting like Spider-Man must always be in High School and that is the only proper way to depict him goes against the way different productions have depicted the character.

[Mercwmouth12]

I hate to tell you this but none of this actually matters. And we've seen successful Spider-Man releases depicting the character in High School, in College, and as a College Graduate with a job. Acting like Spider-Man must always be in High School and that is the only proper way to depict him goes against the way different productions have depicted the character.

But all that would be alternate or AU stories since Marvel unlike DC doesnt do full on universal reboots

[Kevinroc]

But all that would be alternate or AU stories since Marvel unlike DC doesnt do full on universal reboots

If Marvel REALLY thought that Spider-Man is broken because he isn't in High School anymore, they could always do a full-on universal reboot.

They haven't.

[Mercwmouth12]

Or just bring back ultimate

[Kevinroc]

Or just bring back ultimate

The problem with Ultimate, which was meant to be a continuity-free line for new readers to jump onto, is it ends up getting continuity of its own. (And it still isn't the main line of books.)

[PCN24454]

I hate to tell you this but none of this actually matters. And we've seen successful Spider-Man releases depicting the character in High School, in College, and as a College Graduate with a job. Acting like Spider-Man must always be in High School and that is the only proper way to depict him goes against the way different productions have depicted the character.

There’s no point in having him be an adult if he’s not actually going to be an adult.

[Lee]

You say that like tons of readers didn't start reading in the 90s and 00s when Spider-Man was married. Removing the marriage didn't exactly create a tidle wave of new readers entering comic shops. Ultimate Spider-Man didn't either, though it sold very well, I attribute that more to the art and creative team, a perfect storm making a great comic. Under Bendis and Bagley, that book could have just as easily been college era or adult Spidey and sold just as well. The whole thing was it was an alternate reality / revamp of the mythos and it was high quality.

Spider-Man is a well recognised and appealing character. A compromised Spider-Man is still Spider-Man. But if Marvel rests on their laurels then that star will fade. It's better to have a Spider-Man series that speaks to today's youth.

Ultimate Spider-Man was a huge gateway comic for teenagers, especially with the graphic novels. A big success for Marvel.

[Kevinroc]

There’s no point in having him be an adult if he’s not actually going to be an adult.

So what did you think of Insomniac's Spider-Man game?

[Mercwmouth12]

Spider-Man is a well recognised and appealing character. A compromised Spider-Man is still Spider-Man. But if Marvel rests on their laurels then that star will fade. It's better to have a Spider-Man series that speaks to today's youth.

Ultimate Spider-Man was a huge gateway comic for teenagers, especially with the graphic novels. A big success for Marvel.

That's what Miles is supposed the now for Marvel

[Vortex85]

Spider-Man is a well recognised and appealing character. A compromised Spider-Man is still Spider-Man. But if Marvel rests on their laurels then that star will fade. It's better to have a Spider-Man series that speaks to today's youth.

Ultimate Spider-Man was a huge gateway comic for teenagers, especially with the graphic novels. A big success for Marvel.

Compromised Spider-Man is a Spider-Man not in high school? Holy crap this character has been compromised for nearly all of his existence! Just because Ultimate Spider-Man is a success does not mean its the wining forumla to keeping the comic book industry alive. The main hurtle is prices and exposure.

1) You need to put comics where people shop as bait, even if doing so doesn't make money for the business, it will attract readers who will then go to comic stores. You can't keep them only in comics stores. That is a sure fire way to only keep existing costumers and never get new ones.
2) Prices rose way above the inflation rate. I am a comic collector and I wouldn't dream of exposing my kids to comics until they can work and afford them themselves because it's too expensive these days. Plus, I'm not going to spend a ton of money giving them books that are going to be torn up and ruined because they are not old enough to care for them properly. Digital comics would be the answer but still, those are too expensive.

The age of Spider-Man in his main universe comics has nothing to do with it. All the other heroes should be selling like hot cakes compared to Spider-Man if his age is the problem and all the other heroes are "correct".

[Lee]

Spider-Man also works in a college setting. Nick Spencer put Peter back in college didn't he? Is he still a student?