The dress is being put to rest...

[Mercury]

Glad the dress is gone. Now can we address other fan complaints. Deep breath Where's my Headless Cyclopshorseman Duggan? I want that cover made reality damnit.

But no, seriously, glad this is finally moved past.

Next issue is a great one for him!

Great? I mean, I never hated the outfit but it never really made sense that she was running around in it as much as she was. There are better skirt/dress costumes out there.

Hopefully her new costume is good.

Aside from it being outdated, I think fans were bothered by it and the codename because Jean had been depicted renouncing both in the past...

(There you are, Spidey! lol)

[thjan]

Gerry Duggan just confirmed:



https://twitter.com/GerryDuggan/stat...93251212382209

In case some of you thought berating creatives online gets you what you want any faster...����������

Yeah, it is pretty well known by now that the people at Marvel tend to double down on bad or unpopular decisions that bring fierce backlash, rather than just admit they goofed or made a bad call. They usually fix the issue a few years down the line, but at that point they have dragged it out so long that no one is happy and they have frustrated their consumers for no reason except spite or the need to show they are in control. It for sure makes sense to a point, since they don't want to dance completely to the tune of the fan base for every decision, but there are some cases that are just so obviously disliked by the very large majority that I don't understand why they don't just fix it as soon as they can. What would be so bad about actually listening to your fans' and customers' genuine and honest complaints every once in a while? Just because there might be a small vocal minority that is abusive or ugly about the issue doesn't mean it shouldn't be re-examined at all. There is always going to be that element in everything, but that doesn't mean you should write off your entire customer base and its concerns. Especially over something as silly and small an issue as a costume. I mean sheesh! I honestly did not care enough about this costume business to even complain, but I did find it to be a lame and hokey costume by modern standards and did not understand why Marvel fought so hard for it, for so long, except to placate Hickman(who did not even use her a ton himself) instead of the people that actually pay for this stuff.

[Rift]

You are too cute! lmao! What picture is it?

No u. And here's one of them.


If the new outfit doesn't suit Jean, we can always propose she wear the short-shorts.

[rcaguy]

Great? I mean, I never hated the outfit but it never really made sense that she was running around in it as much as she was. There are better skirt/dress costumes out there.

Hopefully her new costume is good.

Not if she stole it from Kitty.

[Saithor]

The thing is, a costume in a comic can mean a lot to inform characterization and such outside of just how nice it is. I wouldn't mind the minidress if it informed anything about Jean's character, but it really doesn't. If anything it's a sign she's regressed, but I don't think that's what they were going for.

[Mercury]

No u. And here's one of them.


If the new outfit doesn't suit Jean, we can always propose she wear the short-shorts.

No, you! Also, hot picture!

The thing is, a costume in a comic can mean a lot to inform characterization and such outside of just how nice it is. I wouldn't mind the minidress if it informed anything about Jean's character, but it really doesn't. If anything it's a sign she's regressed, but I don't think that's what they were going for.

Well, in X-Men #4, Duggan implied that Jean was conflicted over not just her uniform but also her overall (purposeful?) regression. It seems she may have been holding herself back for several reasons, one being her history with the Phoenix Force, and another the dawn of the Krakoan era.

We'll see if he explains it. I believe her reworked Gala uniform will premiere later this month in Devil's Reign: X-Men #1.

[Saithor]

No, you! Also, hot picture!



Well, in X-Men #4, Duggan implied that Jean was conflicted over not just her uniform but also her overall (purposeful?) regression. It seems she may have been holding herself back for several reasons, one being her history with the Phoenix Force, and another the dawn of the Krakoan era.

We'll see if he explains it. I believe her reworked Gala uniform will premiere later this month in Devil's Reign: X-Men #1.

I mean, I'd have an easier time believing that was the plan all along if that had been hinted at throughout her appearances. but it's nice he at least tried something with it after she got stuck in the dress. Or maybe it was planned. I don't know because how much other authors followed on Hickman's stuff seemed to vary from book to book tbh.

[AppleJ]

Is it too much to hope that that outfit is besmirched and destroyed in such a horrific and shameful fashion that it never ever EVER appears on a mutant body ever again?

[Saithor]

Is it too much to hope that that outfit is besmirched and destroyed in such a horrific and shameful fashion that it never ever EVER appears on a mutant body ever again?

She could give it to Nightmare

[Mercury]

I mean, I'd have an easier time believing that was the plan all along if that had been hinted at throughout her appearances. but it's nice he at least tried something with it after she got stuck in the dress. Or maybe it was planned. I don't know because how much other authors followed on Hickman's stuff seemed to vary from book to book tbh.

For all we know, Hickman may have been the one to plan that internal conflict for her but never did anything with it, either because a) he was turned off by the backlash, or b) he didn't have the time to focus on it.

[pkingdom]

I hope her new costume isn't just that pink energy look.

[Frontier]

I hope her new costume isn't just that pink energy look.

They should just bring back the X-Men: Red costume or the Dauterman look.

[Kurolegacy]

Oh thank God. That dress was outdated decades ago and it if they were never gonna offer some explanation for why they’d use that over any of her past outfits or even a new one, I see no reason to keep it.

[Bunch of Coconuts]

Why is this a separate thread instead of being part of the Jean thread? Genuine curiosity. I'm glad they're retiring the dress, it doesn't necessarily have to be as bad a costume it is, it's just not usually drawn well.

I'm sure you could have come up with the answer.

[Celestialbodies]

Those Twitter responses from Duggan were annoying as h#$%!

Basically, Jean was stuck in that antiqued dress for nearly 3 years...because fans were asking why she's been stuck in that antiqued dress without an in story reason?

I really wish writers or Marvel in general spent as much time investing in meaningful stories as they do trolling fans, what did any of this accomplish?