Punchline / Alexis Kaye Appreciation Thread 2022

[millernumber1]

I'm pretty disappointed. Punchline is a character with an absolutely fantastic premise - an internet radicalized sociopath who is radicalizing others - and without being an explicit political analogue for any "side" - but Howard is a preachy and obnoxious writer, so I fully expect it'll just turn into a lazy, shallow, and painful allegory immediately.

[Aahz]

But I'm excited to see a female writer's take on her.

I still don't why people think that will do anything for the quality of the book, a good chunk of the best and most influential stories of DCs most popular female characters have been written by male writers (and I think they were all created by male writers as well...).

[Top Hat]

I'm pretty disappointed. Punchline is a character with an absolutely fantastic premise - an internet radicalized sociopath who is radicalizing others - and without being an explicit political analogue for any "side" - but Howard is a preachy and obnoxious writer, so I fully expect it'll just turn into a lazy, shallow, and painful allegory immediately.

The truth hurts. Punchline is a very obvious jab at one political side and to pretend otherwise is to ignore the writing on her back up story in the Joker solo especially the last issue. Howard is the exactly right writer for the job in my view. People usually only accuse others of being preachy when they disagree with their viewpoint, so it would have been more honest if you had said that rather than ranting on.

[Top Hat]

I still don't why people think that will do anything for the quality of the book, a good chunk of the best and most influential stories of DCs most popular female characters have been written by male writers (and I think they were all created by male writers as well...).

That has more to do with the fact that male writers have always been in the vast majority in the industry.

[millernumber1]

The truth hurts. Punchline is a very obvious jab at one political side and to pretend otherwise is to ignore the writing on her back up story in the Joker solo especially the last issue. Howard is the exactly right writer for the job in my view. People usually only accuse others of being preachy when they disagree with their viewpoint, so it would have been more honest if you had said that rather than ranting on.

I like many writers and stories that don't agree with me, and dislike several writers and stories that do. Take your scolding somewhere else.

[OopsIdiditagain]

The truth hurts. Punchline is a very obvious jab at one political side and to pretend otherwise is to ignore the writing on her back up story in the Joker solo especially the last issue. Howard is the exactly right writer for the job in my view. People usually only accuse others of being preachy when they disagree with their viewpoint, so it would have been more honest if you had said that rather than ranting on.

That is not true punchline can be any side of the political spectrum. The point is that she took advantage of internet fame and people's admiration of her to achieve her own goals.

She is a prime example of an interner grifter and those ones go whatever way is most convenient for them. More often than not they swing from one side to another, depending on what's considered contrarian at the time. In punchline's case she's a fake anarchist for now and trying to make the joker a martyr.

[OopsIdiditagain]

I still don't why people think that will do anything for the quality of the book, a good chunk of the best and most influential stories of DCs most popular female characters have been written by male writers (and I think they were all created by male writers as well...).

It's just interesting to see punchline from a female perspective and how they interpret her.

[Aahz]

That has more to do with the fact that male writers have always been in the vast majority in the industry.

Maybe but DC has now mainly given female led books to female for the past 10 years or so, can't say that I'm particularly impressed by the results sofar.

[OopsIdiditagain]

Maybe but DC has now mainly given female led books to female for the past 10 years or so, can't say that I'm particularly impressed by the results sofar.

Well that's your opinion and it's your right to have one. Not like I can do anything about that . I'm just interested to see if Howard will add anything to Punchline/Bluebird's dynamic. And what she'll do with the whole e-girl/celeb villain with a legion of loyal followers thing.

[Rac7d*]

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I always kinda hoped

[OopsIdiditagain]

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I always kinda hoped

No wonder Gleb is on the Punchline comic. Anyway looking forward to those two emo girls duking it out.

[Majesty]

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I always kinda hoped

And when Punchline is written to outmatch her in every way and always be 5000 steps ahead, it will go back to the same basic problem with her. It's hard for me to have hope in any compelling Punchline story when she pretty much never loses or actually struggles.

[Frontier]

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I always kinda hoped

This is kind of unexpected. I mean, they're both villain sidekicks I guess?

[Rac7d*]

And when Punchline is written to outmatch her in every way and always be 5000 steps ahead, it will go back to the same basic problem with her. It's hard for me to have hope in any compelling Punchline story when she pretty much never loses or actually struggles.

We already saw her loose

[OopsIdiditagain]

Punchline is in the legion of doom for dark crisis

We already saw her loose

she gets beaten up in every physical fight. she needs her fanboys/fangirls to do the heavy lifting