Vance Astrovik: Justice Appreciation 2022

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

If anything, you could use Justice as an outsiders view on Krakoa. Him adjusting to Krakoa is a good pitch for a miniseries.

[Thundershot]

If anything, you could use Justice as an outsiders view on Krakoa. Him adjusting to Krakoa is a good pitch for a miniseries.

Dear God, no. Keep him far away from Krakoa. I love the X-men. I love the Krakoa era. But the only connection I want him to have with Krakoa is declining their invitation and go back to being a hero.

[Chris0013]

What did he say?

Basically that Vance was an option to learn to better use his TK but he was a nerd or loser...something like that. It was a while ago.

[Thirteen]

I think he should take over as Captain Krakoa and leave Justice behind.

Vance revealed as being Captain Krakoa could have been brilliant. If they had gone for a true "Who is Ronin (now)?" style mystery, telekinesis can masquerade as lots of different powers: super-strength, weapons, flight, etc. He takes off his mask and boop Vance Astrovik, the dark horse mutant who never hung with the mutants.
C'mon! This wouldn't even be the worst costume that Vance has ever worn! (would need a CAPE though)

[Chris0013]

Dear God, no. Keep him far away from Krakoa. I love the X-men. I love the Krakoa era. But the only connection I want him to have with Krakoa is declining their invitation and go back to being a hero.

Definitely...keep him far away from Krakoa. I do however want to see a story with Vance as part of a task force tracking an international mutant criminal who is using Krakoan Gates to get around though.

[kevlon]

Definitely...keep him far away from Krakoa. I do however want to see a story with Vance as part of a task force tracking an international mutant criminal who is using Krakoan Gates to get around though.

That would be cool.

However I just want him to appear in a monthly book. If it's X-Men then so be it.

[Chris0013]

Vance in current FF...

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[Phoenixx9]

Vance in current FF...

VanceShield.jpg

Vance's future self has used the shield in the 31st Century and now we see Vance use it in the 21st century.

[Chris0013]

Vance's future self has used the shield in the 31st Century and now we see Vance use it in the 21st century.

IIRC...Steve let him toss it around a little in training in the Justice Limited series.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Vance in current FF...

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Seems like a pointless callback, honestly.

But at least Vance got some focus

[Thundershot]

Yeah I don’t get why they’re suddenly bringing up Major Victory/ Vance Astro. They’re divergent versions of the same person, but our Vance / Justice isn’t destined to BECOME the GOTG Vance. That ship has sailed.

[danielsan52]

I prefer Vance as Marvel Boy or MV. Justice is okay but if he were to get upgraded to MV, I’d be all for it.

[kevlon]

I prefer Vance as Marvel Boy or MV. Justice is okay but if he were to get upgraded to MV, I’d be all for it.

Same here. I never really liked Justice. As Marvel Boy he was my favourite character back in the New Warrior days.

For 2 issues of New Warriors, Vance was actually called Marvel Man. This was in the Forever Yesterday story line where Vance was one of the leaders of the mutant liberation front along with Magneto and Emma Frost.

[sifighter]

Seems like a pointless callback, honestly.

But at least Vance got some focus

If I recall this is actually supposed to be a deliberate fear tactic by Reed Richards who got some weird Watcher machine.

[Phoenixx9]

If I recall this is actually supposed to be a deliberate fear tactic by Reed Richards who got some weird Watcher machine.

Yeah, the Baddoon of the 31st Century (Majory Victory Vance Astro timeline) were afraid when he wielded Cap's Shield---more as a symbol for what it stood for than whatever Vance did with it.

The Watcher may have conveyed that info to Reed to have Cap lend 21st Century Vance the shield to do the same thing there.