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    Quote Originally Posted by sifighter View Post
    1. Characters like Jessica Cruz, Simon Baz, Bunker, Duke Thomas, Wallace West, and Khalid Nassour still exist
    2. Vertigo and Wildstorm characters who arrived post-Flashpoint still live here
    3. Character history that occurred during that era still are referenced (Forever Evil/Luthor on the Justice League, Cyborg being on the Justice League, Spy era Grayson, Harley Quinn, Ted Kord being alive, the Shazam family to name a few)

    While things have changed back to pre-New 52 era history and characters, it is just that the New 52 that wasn't completely wiped out still persist just down played that it was all part of a huge reboot and made to fit into things people like.
    This is nitpicking, but I think that New 52 wasn't wiped away at all, its just that many pre-Flashpoint elements were brought back and now we have a hybrid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HsssH View Post
    This is nitpicking, but I think that New 52 wasn't wiped away at all, its just that many pre-Flashpoint elements were brought back and now we have a hybrid.
    That’s what I’m saying, elements still exist, stories still referenced, and characters still around. Just now with pre-flashpoint context.
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    Just to pick up on the "how will this connect to Justice Incarnate?" question:

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    homas Wayne has been Omega Beamed in Justice Incarnate #4. Normally this is supposed to mean "total obliteration" or some such silliness, but one suspects that this will instead be an excuse to deposit him back in the Flashpoint timeline.
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    Considering how Morrison and King has showed how the Omega FX can work, it is pretty probable than
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    Indeed, Darksseid has send Thomas back to his reality, the worst possible, instead of killing him. The question is, will he be able to return?
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    The plot armor flashpoint Batman has is incredible. He is wiped out along with the flashpoint world but returns due to Manhattan. He tries to go out in a flash of glory in button but reverse flash saves him. Bane breaks his back yet he is back on his feet with no harm done. Now darkseid blasts him with his oe but he survives and goes back to his timeline either through the omega effect or possibly having survived he returns to the action next issue and then returns to his world. He seems to go on and on like Old Man Logan and his world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wat View Post
    The plot armor flashpoint Batman has is incredible. He is wiped out along with the flashpoint world but returns due to Manhattan. He tries to go out in a flash of glory in button but reverse flash saves him. Bane breaks his back yet he is back on his feet with no harm done. Now darkseid blasts him with his oe but he survives and goes back to his timeline either through the omega effect or possibly having survived he returns to the action next issue and then returns to his world. He seems to go on and on like Old Man Logan and his world.
    He has truly harnessed the power his son has wielded for so long
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    Something occurred to me...

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    DC has already retired Johns-ian concepts/character arcs over the past couple of years. Superboy-Prime and Eobard Thawne for starters. If Thomas Wayne winds up back on Flashpoint earth, maybe this is meant to be him making things right and wrapping up the whole Flashpoint Earth arc/concept. I'd be down with that because we could finally move on.
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    What Johns concept did they retire about Eobard Thawne? He still killed Barry's mom, didn't he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    What Johns concept did they retire about Eobard Thawne? He still killed Barry's mom, didn't he?
    Thawne was written out during Williams' run. Johns had set up Thawne as the main bad guy in Barry's life. That arc has now ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyDreadful View Post
    Something occurred to me...

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    DC has already retired Johns-ian concepts/character arcs over the past couple of years. Superboy-Prime and Eobard Thawne for starters. If Thomas Wayne winds up back on Flashpoint earth, maybe this is meant to be him making things right and wrapping up the whole Flashpoint Earth arc/concept. I'd be down with that because we could finally move on.
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    What is there to wrap up? I don't think that anything has been used from Flashpoint asides of Thomas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyDreadful View Post
    Thawne was written out during Williams' run. Johns had set up Thawne as the main bad guy in Barry's life. That arc has now ended.
    You don’t really think Eobard is never going to return to being the Reverse-Flash do you? Because he will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyDreadful View Post
    Thawne was written out during Williams' run. Johns had set up Thawne as the main bad guy in Barry's life. That arc has now ended.
    Thawne has always been the main bad guy in Barry's life. Even before the Johns retcon he killed Iris and Barry killed him.

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    Exactly. Barry's main bad guy. Barry.
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    It’s pretty clear Barry’s being put back in the ground with extreme prejudice after all the headache his unnecessary resurrection caused

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    Quote Originally Posted by king of hybrids View Post
    It’s pretty clear Barry’s being put back in the ground with extreme prejudice after all the headache his unnecessary resurrection caused
    With a movie starring Barry Allen (and a whole lotta Batmen) on the way? Highly doubtful.

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