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    Default The Eternals (mcu) Vs The Avengers (mcu)

    That's right.

    Now that more people has seen this movie, let's find out if they truly are the strongest mcu team. this is all at the height of their powers.

    Druig is not using his humanoid mind control powers because he finds it cheap.



    Eternals:

    Ajak
    Thena
    Gilgamesh
    Ikaris
    Sprite
    Phastos
    Kingo
    Makkari
    Druig
    Sersi

    Avengers:

    Iron Man (Bleeding edge)
    Spider-man (Iron spider suit, Spider sense fully unlocked and EDITH drones)
    Captain Marvel
    Dr. Strange w/ Time stone
    Prime Thor w/ Shieldbreaker
    Captain America w/ Mjolnir
    Captain Falcon
    War Machine
    Scarlet Witch (Full power)
    Hulk
    Hawkeye
    Black Widow
    Black Panther
    Ant-man
    Wasp
    Vision


    Will Makkari be the MVP? or are there just too many people on the avengers that can tank her?

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    Yeah, barring Infinity-gem enhanced shenanigans, this is basically Thor and Vision vs. everyone else since Druig is on the other team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twickster View Post
    Yeah, barring Infinity-gem enhanced shenanigans, this is basically Thor and Vision vs. everyone else since Druig is on the other team.
    druig doesnt feel like using his mindontrol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswin View Post
    druig doesnt feel like using his mindontrol
    What's he there for, then?

    (Admittedly, Druig *is* a very hard matchup for Rumbles. Granting his power only works on humans, its either stomp or be stomped for him)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twickster View Post
    What's he there for, then?
    Well atleast an extra enhanced body to divide the attack from the avengers hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswin View Post
    Well atleast an extra enhanced body to divide the attack from the avengers hehe.
    Yeah, sure. I mean the guy doesn't even have the usual glass canon mind controller weakness. Typically the way to go is to quickdraw them, but that's tricky with him. The guy arguably has the greatest durability feat in the whole movie who's name isn't Ikaris.

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    Makkari probably makes this easy
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    Depends entirely on if Makkari can take out Thor, Vision, Strange, Bleeding Edge Tony, Captain Marvel, and Wanda before any of them take flight.

    I can see her taking out the human durability people, but Vision, Carol, and Thor might be an issue. If any gets airborne, only Ikaris can fight them than and with Stormbreaker and the Mind Stone + phasing and Carol’s energy absorption, I’m not sure he wants part of that party.

    Honestly, even Druig’s mind control may not help here since it has only been shown to work on humans (theorized if amped up would work on a Celestial).
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    Actually, this might be wholly dependant on if Druig can mind control Carol or not (since she’s part Kree now IIRC, she bled blue blood).

    If he can, than it’s Carol and Ikaris vs Thor and Vision (with possibly Strange and Wanda if Makkari didn’t just knock them out straight away).
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    Sprite could play spoiler with some illusions if she gets some time.

    I wonder if Makkari could just speed Sersi over to people like Vision and have her transmutate them. I don't recall the limits of her power but I do know she had trouble doing that until later in hte movie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Postmania View Post
    Sprite could play spoiler with some illusions if she gets some time.

    I wonder if Makkari could just speed Sersi over to people like Vision and have her transmutate them. I don't recall the limits of her power but I do know she had trouble doing that until later in hte movie
    Sersi acts slower than Vision (who has some level of super speed if WV is allowed) is the problem though.
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    Can't Druig just control the humans on the other side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    Can't Druig just control the humans on the other side?
    Probably (though maybe Strange or Wanda would have resistance. Strange I believe showed resistance against Maw’s mental attack with the needles and SC has her own freaky mind powers).

    Unless the Ebony Maw thing was purely physical. I don’t actually remember.

    Either way, even if all the humans fall under Druig’s sway, that leaves Thor and Vision and possibly Carol. That trio alone is…..very difficult to beat.
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    We can't spot Wanda or Carol resistance to Druig, they don't have the feats for that. It's certainly plausible due to Infinity Stone enhanced shenanigans, as I've stated, but still, that's not anywhere close to a feat.

    Same with Strange. Maw's needles weren't mind control, it was just straight up torture. He says directly that those were medical instruments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twickster View Post
    We can't spot Wanda or Carol resistance to Druig, they don't have the feats for that. It's certainly plausible due to Infinity Stone enhanced shenanigans, as I've stated, but still, that's not anywhere close to a feat.

    Same with Strange. Maw's needles weren't mind control, it was just straight up torture. He says directly that those were medical instruments.

    Ahh.

    Though I would point out Carol’s not technically human anymore (Kree hybrid as I recall). Druig may not be able to control her.
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