What elements do you want to see in an Amazing Spider-Man Comic Book run?

[marhawkman]

I don't necessarily mean kids right conceived on (or before) the honeymoon. Just queue them up for a few years after the marriage. I want twins...a boy and a girl. Let it be a one and done for MJ due to complications.

Weelll twins would probably be worse than a single one... also in MC2 apparently the second time was less of an issue... might just be better super-medicine.

Once that happens the aunts would need to be looped in on Peter's other life.

hmmm maybe. In MC2 May had to help with Benjy because he was... very energetic... compared to a normal child.

[PCN24454]

She was the old aunt who was always sick that needed to be taken care of the. Other sub plots over the years to running feast. There's literally no need for her character at this point and used as an excuse to status quo can't change

The same could said about the Daily Bugle since they’re just an obstacle to superheroing.

[Mercwmouth12]

The same could said about the Daily Bugle since they’re just an obstacle to superheroing.

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Basically being replaced by Threats and Menace which went from and ASM thing to now a Silk fixture

[phonogram12]

Actually in a way they did in the recent Marvel Zombies mini. MJ became a zombie and Peter became the surrogate dad to Franklin. Also they did it in JJ abrahms son book too which was awful. Basically Pete becomes a deadbeat dad and May ends up caring for his son

Well, that's one way to write it. Captain America was also written as a werewolf, so lord knows you can write a character any which way you want.

The same could said about the Daily Bugle since they’re just an obstacle to superheroing.

Same can be said about any f/t job a surerhero has, really (including a scientist).

[TinkerSpider]

1.) Romance MJ and Pete are finally back together, but they seem to spend very little time together in non-spidey situations (imo). MJ doesn't need to be a hero or spun off into her own solo book. It's OK for supporting characters to just be that, supporting characters. She can still proactively aid her "husband" like when she helped out Pete design a new superhero costume during "Identity Crisis," or helping him work through a mystery like in "Hobgoblin Lives." Otherwise, let's see Pete and MJ in more "adult" intimate situations, like in the 90's or the JMS run of the early 2000's.

2.) Interacting with his co-workers (I miss Pete and Robbie Robertson's friendship, as well, as the rest of the classic Bugle Staff, like Kate Cushing and Glory Grant) I don't mind him having new science lab co-workers, but I want it in a more realistic setting, like ESU, not the crazy "super-science" labs you see in Horizon or Beyond. They should also not treat him like a moron. Ie: the co-workers at Horizon or Parker Industries.

3.) Less Avengers and SHIELD team ups. I don't mind an occasional superhero guest star, but it really feels like it got out of hand in recent years. If Peter needs to globe trot, let it be on his or the Bugle's dime, not the U.S. government. And if he needs allies, let it be more classic reoccurring Spider-man allies. (Black Cat, Silver Sable, Cloak and Dagger) or those "Web warriors" (Miles, Madame Web, etc.) that Marvel is trying to push as the "Spider-Family," but without really doing the work to make it feel organic.

4.) Speaking of which, more Black Cat.

5.) A nice mix of new and classic enemies. When the classic baddies DO appear, they should be written as extremely dangerous.

6.) Hobgoblin and Mr. Fear. I just love these villains, and will buy any book they appear in.

7.) The Black Costume. I will buy any book it appears in.

8.) No more weird Venom events. I have no more interest in all these convoluted alien space God/ "Klyntar" shenanigans.

9.) Romance. Yeah, I already said it once, but it just doesn't feel like a Spider-man comic if we don't see his soap opera love life. It's been part of the book since Lee and Ditko had Betty Brant and Liz Allen vying for his attention. Whether it's Gwen, MJ, Felicia, Debra, etc. It's always been a core part of the series. When it's missing (ala most of Dan Slott's run) you can just feel it.

10) Give MJ her own career, ambitions and interests. The only time she waits by the window is when Peter is late with their takeout order and she's starving.

11) More supporting cast. Fred and Randy were fun but underused in the Spencer run. I enjoyed seeing Carlie and MJ become friends. Love a good awkward scene (usually on Peter's behalf) between Peter, MJ and Felicia. Peter and MJ need a friend circle, both superheroes and civilians, and both as a couple and as individuals.

12) Less global/multiversal shenanigans, more street-level stories. Put the "neighborhood" back into "friendly neighborhood Spider-Man."

13) Stories with emotional weight, and realistic human reactions. What happens in the story should affect Peter and the other characters, at least as long as the story is being told (I get going somewhat back to square one emotionally after an arc because otherwise the characters would be catatonic from trauma). Treat the characters like three dimensional humans, not plastic minifigs running around a playset.

14) Bring back the occasional one-off stories, like Tom Taylor's Friendly Neighborhood issue that focused on MJ. Would love to see more humorous stories like DeMatteis's Frog-Man or White Rabbit stories.

15) Shift the definition of Parker Luck away from "Peter is an immature irresponsible manbaby who screws things up" and back to "Peter cares so much about his responsibility, his life as Spider-Man screws up his life as Peter Parker and vice versa." Go back to remembering Parker Luck is the comic book equivalent of a story by O. Henry.

Not possible in ASM, but would love to see:
16) A one-off AU by Spencer that lets him tell the actual Kindred story he had planned.

[PCN24454]

15) Shift the definition of Parker Luck away from "Peter is an immature irresponsible manbaby who screws things up" and back to "Peter cares so much about his responsibility, his life as Spider-Man screws up his life as Peter Parker and vice versa." Go back to remembering Parker Luck is the comic book equivalent of a story by O. Henry.

To me, there's no difference since the end result is the same.

One thing I would is for new villains. It's reliance on classic villains that ruined Rhino's life.

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[Chris0013]

10) Give MJ her own career, ambitions and interests. The only time she waits by the window is when Peter is late with their takeout order and she's starving.

This is a big thing for me. Even if she is traveling for work don't just have her NOT in the book.

[Huntsman Spider]

10) Give MJ her own career, ambitions and interests. The only time she waits by the window is when Peter is late with their takeout order and she's starving.

11) More supporting cast. Fred and Randy were fun but underused in the Spencer run. I enjoyed seeing Carlie and MJ become friends. Love a good awkward scene (usually on Peter's behalf) between Peter, MJ and Felicia. Peter and MJ need a friend circle, both superheroes and civilians, and both as a couple and as individuals.

12) Less global/multiversal shenanigans, more street-level stories. Put the "neighborhood" back into "friendly neighborhood Spider-Man."

13) Stories with emotional weight, and realistic human reactions. What happens in the story should affect Peter and the other characters, at least as long as the story is being told (I get going somewhat back to square one emotionally after an arc because otherwise the characters would be catatonic from trauma). Treat the characters like three dimensional humans, not plastic minifigs running around a playset.

14) Bring back the occasional one-off stories, like Tom Taylor's Friendly Neighborhood issue that focused on MJ. Would love to see more humorous stories like DeMatteis's Frog-Man or White Rabbit stories.

15) Shift the definition of Parker Luck away from "Peter is an immature irresponsible manbaby who screws things up" and back to "Peter cares so much about his responsibility, his life as Spider-Man screws up his life as Peter Parker and vice versa." Go back to remembering Parker Luck is the comic book equivalent of a story by O. Henry.

Not possible in ASM, but would love to see:
16) A one-off AU by Spencer that lets him tell the actual Kindred story he had planned.

Generally cosigned.

To me, there's no difference since the end result is the same.

One thing I would is for new villains. It's reliance on classic villains that ruined Rhino's life.

Good point on the new villains. If not for Marvel wanting Aleksei Sytsevich back in the Rhino suit, he would have still been happily married to the woman he loved and retired from villainy for good. Alas . . .

[Chris0013]

I would like to see a new stalker for MJ...but instead of a guy who wants to possess her it is a woman. A former model who MJ beat out for the Secret Hospital role. Make her beautiful, smart and rich...but couldn't act at all. She hacks MJ's social media and posts racist content, puts out photo shopped images and deep fake video making it look like MJ is doing porn, and all sorts of nasty stuff to destroy her. MJ has to lawyer up (Matt or Fogey?), get body guards (Luke and Jessica?), Go to the police or FBI, and Peter is stuck as he can't help with it as he is her boyfriend and anything he does to prove it was not her doing stuff like that will be suspect.

[TinkerSpider]

To me, there's no difference since the end result is the same.

There’s a huge difference. The journey is just as important, if not more so, than the destination. It makes all the difference in the world to Peter’s characterization.

That’s like saying there’s no difference between Hamlet and Casper the Friendly Ghost because the end result is people are haunted.

[PCN24454]

There’s a huge difference. The journey is just as important, if not more so, than the destination. It makes all the difference in the world to Peter’s characterization.

That’s like saying there’s no difference between Hamlet and Casper the Friendly Ghost because the end result is people are haunted.

There’s no difference because you said is exactly why Peter is a manchild. He’s Spider-Man because he cares too much, so it interferes with the rest of his life. Literally nothing has changed.

[TinkerSpider]

ThereÂ’s no difference because you said is exactly why Peter is a manchild. HeÂ’s Spider-Man because he cares too much, so it interferes with the rest of his life. Literally nothing has changed.

BND and Slott turned him into an egregious irresponsible man child.

He is anything but in his depictions by Stern, DeMatteis, JMS, Jenkins, David, Taylor, Fraction in the SSM annual - heck, he was far more responsible and mature as a high school student and new college student under Lee and Conway than he was when written by Slott.

Spider-Man started out as a tragic O Henry story. Peter let the burglar go because he decided it was’t his responsibility - and Uncle Ben was killed by that same burglar. You’re saying it doesn’t matter if a random stranger killed Uncle Ben because the result is the same - Uncle Ben is still dead.

Parker Luck is also an O Henry-type scenario: Let’s say MJ is working in LA and has one weekend free. Peter is at the airport, determined to get on the plane, but has to go into battle as Spider-Man. He saves the airport but the one plane that is damaged is his flight to LA. By the time he changes and gets to the ticket counter, all other flights are sold out until Monday. That’s Parker luck. Not, ‘heeheehee Peter is such a man child doofus he forgot to set an alarm and misses his flight heeheehee.”

[PCN24454]

BND and Slott turned him into an egregious irresponsible man child.

He is anything but in his depictions by Stern, DeMatteis, JMS, Jenkins, David, Taylor, Fraction in the SSM annual - heck, he was far more responsible and mature as a high school student and new college student under Lee and Conway than he was when written by Slott.

Spider-Man started out as a tragic O Henry story. Peter let the burglar go because he decided it was’t his responsibility - and Uncle Ben was killed by that same burglar. You’re saying it doesn’t matter if a random stranger killed Uncle Ben because the result is the same - Uncle Ben is still dead.

Parker Luck is also an O Henry-type scenario: Let’s say MJ is working in LA and has one weekend free. Peter is at the airport, determined to get on the plane, but has to go into battle as Spider-Man. He saves the airport but the one plane that is damaged is his flight to LA. By the time he changes and gets to the ticket counter, all other flights are sold out until Monday. That’s Parker luck. Not, ‘heeheehee Peter is such a man child doofus he forgot to set an alarm and misses his flight heeheehee.”

You’re seriously acting as though these two scenarios are mutually exclusive. It could easily be written as “Peter was so tired from fighting that he forgot to set his alarm”.

Which would you count him not getting his degree as: O Henry or Manchild because by your definition, it’s O Henry because he was so busy with being Spider-Man that he didn’t notice that he failed.

[TinkerSpider]

You’re seriously acting as though these two scenarios are mutually exclusive. It could easily be written as “Peter was so tired from fighting that he forgot to set his alarm”.

That's because they are seriously not mutally exclusive. They are two separate scenarios.

But sure, it could be written that way if one was like Slott and coulnd't be bothered about characterization. You could also write Peter was hit by a brick and missed his wedd-- I mean, plane. You could write anything. It's fiction, after all. Not good fiction, but sure, it's physically possible to write that.

But that's not how characterization works.

Which would you count him not getting his degree as: O Henry or Manchild because by your definition, it’s O Henry because he was so busy with being Spider-Man that he didn’t notice that he failed.

As I recall, Peter cared about his studies. He didn't forget about them because he was too busy trying to pull his thumb out of his tights, as Slott wrote him 99.9878% of the time. There's a big difference between being legitimately busy and occupied with one responsibility and thus failing to fulfill a second responsibility, and being immature and childish and that's what causes you to not fulfull most of your responsibilities.