As Harpsikord noted in another thread, **** around and find out:
As Harpsikord noted in another thread, **** around and find out:
Jean Grey in the words of Walt Whitman, from his masterpiece Leaves of Grass, "Song of Myself" (51 and 52):
"Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
"Failing to fetch me at first keep encouraged, Missing me one place search another, I stop somewhere waiting for you."
Jean Grey in the words of Walt Whitman, from his masterpiece Leaves of Grass, "Song of Myself" (51 and 52):
"Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
"Failing to fetch me at first keep encouraged, Missing me one place search another, I stop somewhere waiting for you."
I find it interesting how many people are irritated seeing Jean's diplomatic character trades in this arc. I love her as a pacifist and politician. She could just come in, uses her powers, and forces everybody to do what she likes. But she doesn't.
To be honest I think thats the least interesting part of the issue. I am wondering how they lock Emma in prison. Does the Q.C vote to hand her over. Does she Volunteer. Do the X-Men volunteer to bring her over
I'm honestly thinking she will volenteer. It gives the QC plausible deniability and she's been in prison before. Plus, with Krakoa's resources they can probably find a way to solve it that doesn't require her to lift a finger.
There's no winning which way you go it seems.
Jean is normally diplomatic, it shouldn't be an issue. And when she does stuff like pushing Lorna, it was about not letting a friend be done in by self doubt. Jean has bitter experience about seeing someone she cares about wallow in that particular character trait, after all.
Dark does not mean deep.
Then people complain bitterly she should have agreed with Lorna on mindwiping the Avengers and not doing so makes her a Care Bear.
There is a method to Jean's ideology being presented of good intentions and an attempt to create an ethical framework to her actions that she will bend in select cases to help others when she thinks they want help.
Last edited by jmc247; 01-22-2022 at 09:04 AM.
Not to derail this thread, but I agree with your criticism of Leah's comments regarding Emma and Jean. Ever since she made the comment - initially on her tumblr and later on twitter, fans have repeated it. JDW has even repeated it, but it just doesn't hold true to what we have seen in the comics (especially regarding Jean's powers - Jean has both the skill and raw power).
Having said that, it is obvious that they use their powers in different ways and I like that. Jean and Emma have different motivations for how they use their powers. They have different ethics. I also like that Jean and Emma work together. I hope we get to see more of that in this miniseries even if only in brief scenes. They can make a great team - as we have seen in the silent psychic rescue adventures.
Duggan does really well with Emma, and I'm interested to see where this story goes. I admit I was kind of sad that Duggan is losing Emma (he's no longer writing Marauders and she's off to another book).
I saw folks criticizing both Scott and Jean due to this issue, but they are the X-men leaders, the dad and mom characters as it were- which means they will often take the high road, be the mature characters, and often the voice of "reason". Having said that Polaris got to be more wild, fun, and free. Duggan's Polaris is very fun.
Great job, guys. Yeah, I think there's a 99% chance you'll end up being right. It's a pretty bad tie-in when the central narrative can be easily predicted from the beginning.
But maybe there will be some cool character moments to make up for it.
Saw the name of the second issue, so you know imma be here
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I'm going to take the liberty of referencing Salarta's excellent summation, in offering my own boiled down, oversimplified riff on the varying M.O.'s of our mutant protagonists.
Jean = deliberative, you know, like Xavier
Lorna = instinctive, like her father, Magneto
Emma = manipulative, as family & Hellfire taught her
This is not to say each is that only, and incapable of the other two, because that would be silly. They absolutely can be and certainly are all 3, of course. It's just these approaches are what they lean into the strongest, and where they operate from most... maybe? IDK, but given their respective Darkhölme & Howlett "tribal" influences, I'll add that I'd probably put both Rogue & Laura in with Polaris. Though Anna Marie has become somewhat more considered over the years, she still pretty much shoots from the hip, more often than not.
Also, thinking on it all, a shoutout to Lorna's tactile, "negotiating" techniques of passive resistance. She bought Ems the time she needed to do her good, dirty work. Makes sense that PHD of hers would = intuitive *smarts*, though.