Ridley's work on BP is better than his work with I AM BATMAN.
I loved the main story and the backups.
This was good. The stuff with Gentle throw me a little but overall I enjoyed it.
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It’s interesting to me that people don’t seem to recognize the difference between honesty within the confines of a relationship and the need for confidentiality when it comes to affairs of state between two de facto leaders/representatives of nations/empires/peoples.
Pretty sure Ororo doesn’t expect to know the ins and outs of Wakanda’s National security contingencies and T’challa doesn’t expect Ororo to whisper to him sweet nothings of Krakoa’s Quiet Council meetings and resurrection protocols before bed. Kind of an absurd idea to contemplate seeing as how both are so high profile and high risk, due to the nature of their identities and fields of work. Seeing as how either one of them could be mentally, magically, or biologically attacked at any moment, possibly exposing the weak points of not only two nations but an entire intergalactic empire as well. Do you expect them to call each other at the end of every day and spill the hot tea of the inner workings of their governance and security like giddy, love drunk high schoolers? Rogue and Remy can afford to do that. Scott and Jean probably as well. Unfortunately the high profiles of both Ororo and T’challa don’t allow them that luxury out of responsibility to their people and the security of their kingdoms.
If you don’t like or appreciate them as a pairing that’s absolutely fine and you can just say that. But reducing the context of their massive individual profiles and responsibilities to “Well he omitted the truth from her! He’s a liar and can’t be trusted!!!” is not only daft but naïve to boot.
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Gentle was a Wakandan citizen before Krakoa even existed. T’challa was one of the only people in his early life to treat him with kindness and respect, to the point where he even lived in the palace of Wakanda for a while under his protection. If T’challa asked him to be his eyes and ears on the newly burgeoning nation of Krakoa in regards to protecting Wakandan interests, I don’t think for a second he would refuse him. Especially when nothing has been stated to have been asked of him on T’challa’s behalf that would in any way endanger or compromise Krakoa/Arrako. Is it the nicest, most above board situation? Of course not and yes, I can see some part of Ororo feeling off about it but also as a head of state herself with responsibility to an entire planet and people, I think deep down, she’d be mature enough to understand the risks one must take to keep one’s people safe. An offensive action or plan to pursue an offensive action against a nation is treason. A betrayal of national secrets or confidential information is treason. Gentle has not been shown to have done anything of the sort as far as we know. And tbh do we really think he has access to the inner circle of Krakoa’s information circuit? Personally, I doubt that very much.
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Taking everything else out of it the facts as presented in this issue is Tchalla is when tchalla is with Storm he is the happiest he has ever been in his life and Storm to be with Tchalla wants complete honesty. Tchalla does not seem to care so much about the honesty issue and just wants the happiness while ororo loves the happiness and playfulness but still wants the honesty. He has ran a nation far longer while she was a goddess. Her people did not keep secrets from her but a king can't divulge affairs of state. So any feeling out of it that is how i read the situation in the issue. Still two different paths and a situation where one can't give the other what the other needs imo.
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Issue 3 Review
-I like the second story. The art was great to look at. Probably going to get its own book and marketed towards younger audience. Or rated E for everyone.
-The actions was alittle confusing Tchallia and the agents suits needs some differentiating from the back view
-Glade to see Gentle in the book. Just like Prodigy. If your not using them and they get better treatment somewhere else I'm all for it. Because Prodigy was essential a field commander in the Coates run in the last two issues.
-Tosin story not really sold on. Just a wash rinse and repeat. Nothing really stood out for me especially the power set or cultist characteristics of the group.
-The time frame the first story and the second story. Had me lost, how many months passed?
Listen, there are definitely huge challenges to the progress and purity of their relationship. All of the reasons I highlighted, as you said, are prime examples of that. It’s entirely understandable to not think a sustainable relationship between these two is probable or even possible due to the nature of who they are and who they need to be to the people they represent.
But to some people, the dynamic of seeing two people who have been important to each other since childhood, before they became the titans they are today fight against all odds to maintain their relationship is a romantic under-dog story you want to root for. Under the crowns, and thrones, and powers, and nations they are actually just two people who seem to love each other despite everything in their lives and everything they’ve become weighing against them. That’s not for everybody for sure and that’s okay! And for others, like myself, you can’t help but to root for them to be with the person I’m their lives who makes them the most happy, and loved, and seen. The entire universe seems to be against them and yet, they feel in their heart that the other is still worth fighting for. People need to understand that both perspectives are okay to have, and that it’s not necessary to tear down characters by calling them liars and snakes and “abusers” to justify your opinions on this. And yes, someone on Twitter tried to make the argument that T’challa “abused” Ororo and that’s why he’s not good for her *eyeroll*. We all can do a little better at letting people enjoy what they enjoy without being disparaging to other characters because something doesn’t fit your preferred narrative. That’s all I’m saying, personally.
Also I love Diana and no, this situation could be be further from a comparison to Charles and Diana’s. In fact, they are directly opposite to each other. Charles and Diana were two people who were fundamentally not right for each other in the sense that they were a mismatch of massive proportions. They had absolutely nothing in common, no real love for each other, and no patience and understanding of who the other was at their core while at the same time being forced by institutions larger then themselves into the same station in life. Ororo and T’challa love each for who they are at their base, most pure selves and the circumstances of their stations in life and responsibilities are what keep them from being together as they would wish to be. The two examples couldn’t be more diametrically opposed.
I see what you’re saying and mostly agree for sure but I think it would make Ororo hypocritical to ask for overt, complete honesty in regards to T’challa and Wakanda when Beast has been spying on every major nation on Earth, the resurrection protocols are still a massive state secret, and the inner workings of the Quiet Council she resides on are confidential as well. Ororo would be a fool not to see the irony in asking him to reveal everything to her when she herself, has her secrets that she keeps for the good of her people.
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But that’s what I’m confused about, what actions are you referring to? What has Gentle done besides exist and lie in wait for anything Krakoa/Arrako presents that might cause direct harm to Wakanda? All of the other Wakandan sleeper agents on Earth lived normal lives and stayed prepared if they were called upon to defend Wakanda from the countries they were installed in. Why would Gentle be any different? If Krakoa/Arrako never acted against Wakanda, I’m inclined to believe he would have absolutely no affect whatsoever on the affairs of Krakoan/Arrakii sovereignty.