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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    If the writers have such low opinions of these characters as you guys, then it's no wonder they write them so poorly.

    The thing about classic Vicki Vale that always fascinated me is that between 1948 and 1963, she appeared in about forty stories. Yet halfway, in 1956, Batwoman/Kathy Kane shows up and she becomes the defacto love interest for Batman/Bruce--which makes Vicki not really a love interest. She's just a reporter who's interested in Batman's cases. One would have thought she'd just be retired as was with Julie Madison, Linda Page and even Selina Kyle, now that they had a new female to centre the stories around.

    The mystery novelist is Kaye Daye.
    I have a high opinion of Vicki Vale; I have a low opinion on how she has been written.

    I'd like to see some better stories with her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scary harpy View Post
    I have a high opinion of Vicki Vale; I have a low opinion on how she has been written.

    I'd like to see some better stories with her.
    Then again, how many people these days have a low opinion about reporters and newspapers / news magazines?

    That, unfortunately, probably does not help Vicki's image.

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    Make her a PI like Veronica Mars. One of the big reasons that occurred to me is because on the show she's shown using a camera for photographic evidence a lot.
    Keep in mind that you have about as much chance of changing my mind as I do of changing yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scary harpy View Post
    Sounds like Kaye Daye...but she actually helped Batman with cases.

    I do remember one issue of Batman with 2 old ladies...sisters who liked to interfere with criminal investigations. wow, that was so long ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post

    The mystery novelist is Kaye Daye.
    Well she hasn't appear recently so just combine them, maybe Kaye Daye is an alias use by Vale like Barbara Minerva using the other Cheetah's names like aliases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal Slayer View Post
    Vicki really deserves her dues and doesn't really need much revamping. But if we want to...she could easily be running her own successful podcast that deals with the ongoings of Gothams elite and transitions over to Batman from time to time. Kind of have her be Gothams Gossip Girl/Wendy Williams type.
    that's a good way to update her. i hate to say it but podcasts, blogs and tabloids get more attention these days than traditional news platforms.
    december 21st has passed where are my superpowers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    I'm too damn old to find that solution of any interest to me.

    And do we really want to go so shallow as a "Wendy Williams type"?
    Sadly we're in the era where TMZ breaks news first, The Sun is taken seriously and presidential hopefuls go on celeb podcasts. Podcasting really isn't a downgrade anymore.


    As "shallow" as Wendy Williams may seem she's one of the few celeb gossip journalists that uses real sources and doesn't lie or say whatever sticks to get views like a lot of celeb blog sites tend to do these days.
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    Have Vicki become an online porn director and actress.
    I am sure Jim Lee and Frank Miller would approve.

    VickiVale.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalman112 View Post
    Have Vicki become an online porn director and actress.
    I am sure Jim Lee and Frank Miller would approve.

    VickiVale.jpg
    Thought this image was go'n show up on the first page...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal Slayer View Post
    Kind of have her be Gothams Gossip Girl/Wendy Williams type.
    That's Tawny from the Harley Quinn animated series verse.

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    I'd just give her the same kind of job she had in B89: A photojournalist that works with Alexander Knox.

    Why bother seriously revamping her when later writers will likely throw that out? Best to pull a Geoff Johns and present the most common pop culture image of her.

    In any event, Vicki's profession isn't the problem with the character. And of course she won't gain traction if people are reductive and just write her off as a Lois Lane ripoff.

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