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    Default Teasers Offer Insight Into "AXIS" Motivations

    Red Skull attempts to recruit Havok to his cause while the 'superior' Tony Stark is blamed for the events of "AXIS" in two new teasers.


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    Lol

    Marvel is dead set on pining everything on Stark. I'm not even that big of a fan of the character but this getting silly.

    How many events so far have had something to do with Stark being the cause or part of the reason they are fighting in the first place now? Has to be close to 10 at this point right?

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    gives a whole new meaning to "kiss alex's shiny red..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    Lol

    Marvel is dead set on pining everything on Stark. I'm not even that big of a fan of the character but this getting silly.

    How many events so far have had something to do with Stark being the cause or part of the reason they are fighting in the first place now? Has to be close to 10 at this point right?
    Well I believe it started during Civil War so you might be dead on.

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    Oh Tony, what'd you do this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    Lol

    Marvel is dead set on pining everything on Stark. I'm not even that big of a fan of the character but this getting silly.

    How many events so far have had something to do with Stark being the cause or part of the reason they are fighting in the first place now? Has to be close to 10 at this point right?
    1. Civil War
    2. World War Hulk
    3. Secret Invasion
    4. Dark Reign/Siege
    5. AvX

    Huh. Thought it would be more, but this was all I could think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zartan's Brother View Post
    1. Civil War
    2. World War Hulk
    3. Secret Invasion
    4. Dark Reign/Siege
    5. AvX

    Huh. Thought it would be more, but this was all I could think of.
    I thought so too! Seems like every time you turn around Stark has done or was a part of something really bad.

    I'm not read OS but is his thing with the Hulk a major part of that event?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    I thought so too! Seems like every time you turn around Stark has done or was a part of something really bad.

    I'm not read OS but is his thing with the Hulk a major part of that event?
    I didn't read the mini-series but he did tweak the gamma bomb that lead to Banner being the Hulk apparently. They fought and extremis was used on him? But it was just a side story to the actual event.

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    is that Onslaught?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    I thought so too! Seems like every time you turn around Stark has done or was a part of something really bad.

    I'm not read OS but is his thing with the Hulk a major part of that event?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahes View Post
    I didn't read the mini-series but he did tweak the gamma bomb that lead to Banner being the Hulk apparently. They fought and extremis was used on him? But it was just a side story to the actual event.
    Not his fault. He changed the gamma bomb in order to be less powerfull. He saved Bruce life. And he even't told to Bruce that he left him an e-mail saying to check the bomb again and that Bruce ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malreyn View Post
    is that Onslaught?
    Sort of In Uncanny Avengers A clone of the Red Skull stole Xavier's corpse to fuse part of his brain with him to gain Xavier's powers he disappears and some time later he is now calling himself onslaught

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zartan's Brother View Post
    1. Civil War
    2. World War Hulk
    3. Secret Invasion
    4. Dark Reign/Siege
    5. AvX

    Huh. Thought it would be more, but this was all I could think of.
    You could pin Civil War and World War Hulk on Stark (among others) but he was as much a victim of Secret Invasion and Dark Reign as anybody else (especially Dark Reign).

    All he did in AvX was react to a situation.

    This is...they want to move Stark to being this completely ego-driven, technocrat elitist A-hole but they can't get there from where he was.

    So he has to go Superior.

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    It's so odd that Tony is getting blamed - and mind wiped - AGAIN.

    I know these sorts of things are cyclical, but this all literally just happened with Civil War. Like, exactly this.

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    Hm. Both of those lines could easily be taken in multiple ways. Especially the Red Skull/Havok one. That line could easily be Red Skull taunting Alex.

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    Interesting, also, that it seems with Hickman moving on Remender is going to be 'the guy' for the Avengers.

    I expect to see him off Captain America relatively soon so that he can take two central Avengers books (maybe keep doing Uncanny and the main book as well).

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