Eh, it never felt like the controversy there was real. It felt fake, like some people just didn't like it or whatever so wanted there to be controversy and drummed up a bunch of headlines trying to start controversy, but it never actually took as a "real" thing like they wanted. If anything, all the fake controversy did was seem to provide free publicity for the film, I don't think the film makers could have asked for better advertising really.
Yep, there was a tonne of the director saying shit like “you couldn’t make the film that I have just made nowadays because of woke cancel culture or something”. Just really exploitative, cynical dogwhistle garbage that he doubtless doesn’t believe for a second but knows that people obsessed with having a culture war will love.
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I think their only crusade was for attention and viewership. Drumming up fear has always been the media's MO.
In terms of the sequel, one thing I'd love to see is a Batman who looks like a crazy person in a home-made bat costume. (albeit an expensive home-made bat costume) I can buy Joker as mid-30's in the first film, sooo.... maybe 15 yrs has passed and Bruce is just old enough and Joker isn't too old. It won't be a superhero v. supervillain battle so much as two crazy people beating the shit out of each other.
I haven't seen Nightmare Alley, but agreed on Cate Blanchett in anything is good. Not sure if she's capable of the physicality I expect out of Harley, but hell this version of Joker can't really do much more than dance (badly) so she might not need to wield a mean hammer/bat as much.
I felt the character came off the way he did because he was on a heavy dose of psychiatric medication which kept him zoned out. It's an explanation as to why he didn't seem of above intelligence, when the Joker has always been pretty sharp in the comics and other films. His head started to clear out from the medications toward the end, when he stopped using them.
I'd look forward to a sequel. It's a completely open script wherein they can do pretty much anything they want. With the acting ability of Joaquin Phoenix on display, I can't see how it would be a horrible sequel.....Although DC/Warner has disappointed me plenty of times in the past.
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Rupert Pupkin sure looked old in Joker.
I can't see how a sequel would be as shocking or innovative as the first unless they took the Joker story in a much different direction.
They would have to really up the "unreliable narrator" thing and have Arthur relating all these crazy Joker stories/jokes that may or may not have happened but still have some kernel of truth to them.
That feels more like a plot for the Leto Joker.
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