Well, glad for fans, even if it's something I don't care for seeing.
If Batman's in it, I'll care.
Well, glad for fans, even if it's something I don't care for seeing.
If Batman's in it, I'll care.
The guy was barely the Joker in the first movie. So I'm curious if they're going to go ahead and make him more Joker like, or even less. I know everyone here is expecting more Joker-like, but given how Hollywood works I think it could still go either way.
Maybe doesn't even wear the makeup anymore. He just leaves bloodstained Jokebooks at the scene of his crimes.
Well he already inspired a Joker gang activity and went in and out of Arkham (up to two times depending on the ending scene) so he was already getting Jokery enough.
Wonder if it'll be an homage to an earlier filmmaker like the first one was?
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Agree. The Joker as I think of him at least finds twisted humor in his insanity and actions. This emo Joker just has a condition.
Personally, I hope the sequel goes full camp and emulates an 80's movie - make him like Freddie Krueger, but in the waking world. Then multiverse it up by having Michael Keaton Batman beat the shit out of him. (no, it doesn't need to make sense - who cares?)
So they are making Falling Down 2? Or is that actually Falling Down 3?
Such a weird choice for this to get a sequel
Obviously it made so much money, and The Joker is a very bankable character
But the movie didn’t really give off the feeling of having more story to tell? It seemed the film was intended to be taken seriously from an “artist’s” perspective, and I feel sequels generally are considered as cash grabs.
I could only really see it as an anthology series of films, but clearly Phoenix is involved so I doubt that’s the case. It painted itself as quite realistic, and I can’t see a sequel being able to keep that realism up.
I didn’t really care for the first one, and I don’t think I trust Todd Philips to deliver anything that I’d like to see in another film
Who knows, it might be worth it? I will at least give Phoenix another chance! If only because I love him in everything else!
Despite me being prepared to hate the first film, it ended up working great (not as a Batman or Joker or comic book film, but just as a film, as a Taxi Driver or King of Comedy homage film really).
So I guess I'm probably going to give this sequel a shot, especially because Phoenix and Phillips seem to be returning.
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No doubt the next one will be "serious" and "dark" but it would be fun if each Joker movie would be a tribute to a different 70's/80's director. The next one could be Annie Hall/Manhattan era Woody Allen, the one after could be a homage to Robert Altman, after that we could have John Landis Joker, then maybe a Spielberg Joker with a heartwarming ending...
I mean, the first one is a Joker movie with no Joker. It's a pretty well made and compelling crime flick, but it's not the Joker.
This is par for the course.
That said, I'm hesitantly on board for this. A lot is going to depend on the direction they push things. It will be really easy for this to slide into glorifying violence, as the first one cozies right up to that line more than once as it is.
To comic fans it may not be The Joker, but to the general public it is - he’s a clown that causes chaos in Gotham city, affecting Bruce Wayne, and visiting Arkham Asylum. It’s an origin story, but it seemed pretty intent on being a one and done story imo. It’s an adaptation of him, even though it isn’t comic accurate.
What I meant was that, like what you’re saying, the first movie was a character study dressed up with some comic book references, but not explicitly a franchise film. I wouldn’t expect films like The Master, Filth, Frank, Ex Machina, Taxi Driver, King Of Comedy etc to get a sequel, but this has - it just feels strange to me, because the world they’ve set up is fairly realistic; adding a Batman into the mix, or an Arkham breakout would ruin the illusion. But that’s just me!