Why is Cheetah a weaklink 90% of the time?

[Rightoya]

Spider-man who would Cheetah's ass no trouble. He already has a Lion in his rogue gallery( kraven), he doesn't need a kittycat.

If we truly would assume that Spider-Man stands even the slightest chance, it 100% proves this thread right, and DC should be ashamed of themselves.

No im a huge spidey fan, spidey and his villians would die to any of wondys foes, kraven isnt on Barbs level in any way.

I think Alpha just confused that with his own ideas, like where Wonder Woman would magically power down to lifting busses if fighting Spider-Man, and magically power up to threaten entire galaxies if fighting mighty versions of Odin or Galactus as examples.

[Alpha]

If we truly would assume that Spider-Man stands even the slightest chance, it 100% proves this thread right, and DC should be ashamed of themselves.

If Spider-man has defeated Rhino and Morlun, then he can certainly defeat the Kittycat Barbara.

Just because you want Barbara to be as strong as Juggernaut, it doesn't mean she is. You overhype Barbara Minnerva abd then you think people are underserving her. She is a weak villain and she doesn't even register do Diana as a big threat.

[Alpha]

No im a huge spidey fan, spidey and his villians would die to any of wondys foes, kraven isnt on Barbs level in any way.

Oh Circe and Ares are totally outside Spidey's level, no doubt about it.

But Barbara Minnerva? That Kittycat isn't gonna be a big deal to Spider-man after all the times he defeated Rhino and faced Morlun.

Cheetah isn't nearly on the level of Juggernaut

[Rightoya]

If Spider-man has defeated Rhino and Morlun, then he can certainly defeat the Kittycat Barbara.

Morlun is like Circe as a newborn baby and Wonder Woman could knock out both of them before they can blink, even in most of her weakest displays, you need to stop confusing your own wishes of turning Wonder Woman into Spider-Woman with the actual comics.

Just because you want Barbara to be as strong as Juggernaut, it doesn't mean she is. You overhype Barbara Minnerva abd then you think people are underserving her. She is a weak villain and she doesn't even register do Diana as a big threat.

Last time i have checked Barbara Minerva was a prominent Wonder Woman villain who is even sometimes in the running for the arch-nemesis and not a Catwoman or Jason Todd villain, so if we take anything you say about her even just a bit seriously, it 100% proves that she is the by DC most screwed up villain who deserves far better.

[Alpha]

Morlun is like Circe as a newborn baby and Wonder Woman could knock out both of them before they can blink, even in most of her weakest displays, you need to stop confusing your own wishes of turning Wonder Woman into Spider-Woman with the actual comics.

Yes, Circe is a legimate huge threat. Barbara Minnerva is a weak ass villain.

Spider-woman? Who the hell is talking about Spider-woman? How about you don't make accusations that aren't true? I don't want Wonder Woman to be Spider-man so stop making these disrespectfull claims about me.

Last time i have checked Barbara Minerva was a prominent Wonder Woman villain who is even sometimes in the running for the arch-nemesis and not a Catwoman or Jason Todd villain, so if we take anything you say about her even just a bit seriously, it 100% proves that she is the by DC most screwed up villain who deserves far better.

Joker is Batman's archvillain. Doesn't mean Joker is a physical threat to Batman. And Barbara has rarely been more than a bother to Diana. The enemies that have actually challenged Diana's fully matured power were Barbara except when she had a boost from Zoom or the magic sword.

[Rightoya]

Yes, Circe is a legimate huge threat. Barbara Minnerva is a weak ass villain.

Even if we would assume that is true, exchanging Barbara Minerva with Priscilla Rich would not have helped at all, because the same writers who don't care about portraying Barbara Minerva properly, would certainly not care any bit more about Priscilla Rich who would be in addition even much harder to writer as a legitimate Wonder Woman villain in modern comics.

Spider-woman? Who the hell is talking about Spider-woman? How about you don't make accusations that aren't true? I don't want Wonder Woman to be Spider-man so stop making these disrespectfull claims about me.

You have literally talked about Wonder Woman lifting busses as a notable display of power, and even still claim in this thread that Spider-Man could beat the ass of 1 of Wonder Woman's potential arch-nemisis without trouble.

Joker is Batman's archvillain. Doesn't mean Joker is a physical threat to Batman. And Barbara has rarely been more than a bother to Diana. The enemies that have actually challenged Diana's fully matured power were Barbara except when she had a boost from Zoom or the magic sword.

Barbara Minerva is a divinely empowered speedster who challenges Wonder Woman typically in a physical way, not a criminal clown who challenges a street hero like Batman mentally.

[Psy-lock]

Joker is Batman's archvillain. Doesn't mean Joker is a physical threat to Batman. And Barbara has rarely been more than a bother to Diana. The enemies that have actually challenged Diana's fully matured power were Barbara except when she had a boost from Zoom or the magic sword.

She didn’t get a boost from Zoom, it was her own unrealized power. And what, bringing weapons to a fight is considered cheating or something? Even though Diana herself uses magic weapons against her enemies regularly?

[Alpha]

She didn’t get a boost from Zoom, it was her own unrealized power.

It's a power boost. She didn’t have it before, and she didn’t have it after.

And what, bringing weapons to a fight is considered cheating or something? Even though Diana herself uses magic weapons against her enemies regularly?

As of late Mystical has been saying that Diana using a sword to defeat Superman is proof that she is weak.

[Alpha]

You have literally talked about Wonder Woman lifting busses as a notable display of power, and even still claim in this thread that Spider-Man could beat the ass of 1 of Wonder Woman's potential arch-nemisis without trouble.

I never argued Wonder Woman wouldn't beat Spider-man easily. Spider-man can't fight Superman, so he certainly can't beat Wonder Woman. What I've argued is that superheroes lifting planets is silver age nonsense.

Barbara Minerva is a divinely empowered speedster who challenges Wonder Woman typically in a physical way, not a criminal clown who challenges a street hero like Batman mentally.

What do you think divinely empowered means? You do realize Moon Knight is divinely empowered right? Divine Empowerment isn't a power level. It's a power source. Barbara has never been on the top of Diana's hit list. She has never been one of the villains that Diana fears. She isn't Diana's equal at all.

[Hoodj]

If Spider-man has defeated Rhino and Morlun, then he can certainly defeat the Kittycat Barbara.

Just because you want Barbara to be as strong as Juggernaut, it doesn't mean she is. You overhype Barbara Minnerva abd then you think people are underserving her. She is a weak villain and she doesn't even register do Diana as a big threat.

Morlun wiped the floor with Spidey the entire fight while playing around, spidey had to spebd the entire battle running away then ended up killing himself after managing a double kill on the guy. And Morlun would stll get sliced to biys by Cheetah with ease. Spideys a cool hero, but hes not even good enough to win most of his battles even with people weaker than him, Wondy in comparison is overkill even though she has the occasional jobbing feats.

[Alpha]

Morlun wiped the floor with Spidey the entire fight while playing around, spidey had to spebd the entire battle running away then ended up killing himself after managing a double kill on the guy. And Morlun would stll get sliced to biys by Cheetah with ease. Spideys a cool hero, but hes not even good enough to win most of his battles even with people weaker than him, Wondy in comparison is overkill even though she has the occasional jobbing feats.

Spider-man has faced Morlun multiple times bro.

And if Spideran can defeat Rhino quite often he can certainly defeat Barbara. What are Barbara's famous feats of strength? Most of her fights vs Diana are her getting beat quite easily. Cheetah's strategy is slice and run.

[Psy-lock]

It's a power boost. She didn’t have it before, and she didn’t have it after.

Wrong. She's still nearly as fast as the Flash in the subsequent stories:


It was a power boost, but it didn't come from Zoom.

And if Spideran can defeat Rhino quite often he can certainly defeat Barbara. What are Barbara's famous feats of strength? Most of her fights vs Diana are her getting beat quite easily. Cheetah's strategy is slice and run.

That's actually a great strategy against Rhino, since he'll never be able to keep up with her speed, and her claws can tear him to pieces in seconds.

[Agent Z]

Spider-man has faced Morlun multiple times bro.

And if Spideran can defeat Rhino quite often he can certainly defeat Barbara. What are Barbara's famous feats of strength? Most of her fights vs Diana are her getting beat quite easily. Cheetah's strategy is slice and run.

How many times has Spider-Man beaten Morlun and Rhino through brute force alone?

[Alpha]

Wrong. She's still nearly as fast as the Flash in the subsequent stories:


It was a power boost, but it didn't come from Zoom.

Guess I was wrong about her speed. All I remember from that run is Wonder Woman being all "I don't have time for this" and slaming Barbara into a wall, grabbing her by the neck and get on with her day.

That's actually a great strategy against Rhino, since he'll never be able to keep up with her speed, and her claws can tear him to pieces in seconds.

No they can't. What are you talking about?

[Psy-lock]

No they can't. What are you talking about?

About Cheetah. You know, the woman whose claws can easily cut through Diana's and Superman's skin. Or do I not know something about Rhino and he's somehow stronger than these two