Linda Danvers should be brought back separately from Kara

[walk]

As said earlier, Naming her Flamebird, as the name ties into the Superman mythos and describes Linda’s powers is the best bet. (And this is coming from a Bette fan who doesn’t like the Hawkfire name)

The only thing is, as time goes by and the longer away from Linda’s last series, the least likely DC will ever bring this confusing character back.

I think that's why Linda's return should go the Red Hood route, bring her back initially as a villain and enemy of the Superfam, people not in know will hopefully be fascinated by this new mystery forgotten Supergirl is who apparently has history with Clark and the others but who they don't remember and wonder what's the deal with her weird fire powers. Linda's initial story was all about she had done a lot of bad things in her past so the idea that she fell back into that dark place after losing everyone and having her whole existence erased due various cosmic reboots is understandable and makes her a sympathetic villain with a personal ties to the Superfam while offering her the chance to have a redemption arc down the line.

I know everyone wants to just have her come back and more or less pick up from where she left off with a new codename and be a hero again but realistically if you want to effectively sell her to todays audience who have no idea who she is then similar to how Jason and Bucky where brought back after decades she needs to be reinvented significantly, maybe not the dark anti-hero route (though I think it could work) but definitely something that'll make splash and grab people's attention not just the few dozen Linda fans who still exist.

[Will Evans]

I want Linda Danvers and Cir El back.

Why Cir-El?

[king81992]

Why Cir-El?

She had an interesting powerset and personality. It feels like a lot more could be done with her.

[SuperX]

I want Linda Danvers and Cir El back.

Agree,just have Linda comeback as her shorter,short brown haired self,with psykinesis as her base power and earth angel powers on top.

Cir could be a time traveler still,or present day brainaic experiment,or hell lex trying to create "another" Conner ,but with different "extra" powers

[Will Evans]

Cir-El remains me of Laurel Kent from the Legion of Superheroes.

[Incognito]

I like to see Linda come back as the supernatural member of the Superman Family. She can go by the codename Seraph and be one of Superman's go-to people when it comes to the supernatural and the occult.

Cir-El should have come back and took the mantle of Supergirl but its most likely that it will go to Otho-Ra.

[Will Evans]

I like to see Linda come back as the supernatural member of the Superman Family. She can go by the codename Seraph and be one of Superman's go-to people when it comes to the supernatural and the occult.

Cir-El should have come back and took the mantle of Supergirl but its most likely that it will go to Otho-Ra.

How old is Otho?

[Thor-Ul]

Agree,just have Linda comeback as her shorter,short brown haired self,with psykinesis as her base power and earth angel powers on top.

And really I think she should come back. Peter David needs those royalties:

https://comicbook.com/comics/news/pe...credible-hulk/

Cir could be a time traveler still,or present day brainaic experiment,or hell lex trying to create "another" Conner ,but with different "extra" powers

Pretty close to what she was originally, I think.

[Jim Kelly]

There is Dar-Lin, Linda's double in Kandor. And unlike Kara Zor-El, her natural hair colour is brown. She appeared in:

ACTION COMICS 314 (July 1964)--2nd story, "Supergirl's Tragic Ordeal" by Dorfman and Mooney
ACTION COMICS 315 (August 1964)--2nd story, "The Menace of Supergirl's Mother" by Dorfman and Mooney

Living in the bottle city, the Danvers have lost their daughter. To make up for their loss, they take in Dar-Lin, a Kandorian orphan who looks exactly like Linda Lee Danvers--she even has a Campus Cuddle-Bun--Fred must be so pleased. But can Enid really be happy?





Dar-Lin's parents, Zantor and Rena, were presumed dead when they went missing three years before. They kept their expedition hush-hush, so no one knew that they were lost in the caves under Kandor, where they remained in suspended animation. When they awaken, they signal that they are alive through a locket they left with Dar-Lin.

[SuperX]

Matrix and Linda are the same person,or should be ,thst is the problem.

Keeping her whole history,and moving her forward with BOTH matrix and Linda's memories,and in a new direction that doesn't have her as a "clone" of a wannabe Kara.

[Incognito]

How old is Otho?

I am assuming she is in her pre-teens?

[Jim Kelly]

The thing is John Byrne did the pocket universe story as a kind of favour to the LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES book, so its continuity would (sort of) make sense. But once that was done--we were supposed to never talk about it again. Nothing to see here, move along.

But then, there were consequences of Superman killing the Phantom Zoners and we got his exile in space. And Matrix came into the mainstream continuity. Meanwhile, the Legion continuity was thrown out so the pocket universe never mattered in the first place.

So how is it that Matrix is still around? Those stories were never supposed to have happened.

[Jon Clark]

The thing is John Byrne did the pocket universe story as a kind of favour to the LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES book, so its continuity would (sort of) make sense. But once that was done--we were supposed to never talk about it again. Nothing to see here, move along.

But then, there were consequences of Superman killing the Phantom Zoners and we got his exile in space. And Matrix came into the mainstream continuity. Meanwhile, the Legion continuity was thrown out so the pocket universe never mattered in the first place.

So how is it that Matrix is still around? Those stories were never supposed to have happened.

Because as usual DC keeps tossing out its history in pieces, so we never have the clear distinction there was Pre-Crisis,

We knew that Kal-L and Kal-El were two similar but different people. Kal-L could interact with characters from stories that were not part of Kal-El's backstory and vice versa. We didn't have to explain how Power Girl and Supergirl co-existed and both were "Superman's cousin, Kara". Or how Clark could be single on Erath-One but married on Earth-Two.

We just need someone to create a world where Matrix existed with roughly the same history, merged with that world's Linda Danvers and became Supergirl. Then have her brought to the current main Earth and let her assume a new identity unconnected to Krypton (so not Supergirl, Power Girl, Mae Kent ...). If we are still keeping the Danvers from the Supergirl show as part of Kara's backstory then maybe she is a relative of theirs (or can pass for one since she is a refugee from another reality).

[Thor-Ul]

Because as usual DC keeps tossing out its history in pieces, so we never have the clear distinction there was Pre-Crisis,

We knew that Kal-L and Kal-El were two similar but different people. Kal-L could interact with characters from stories that were not part of Kal-El's backstory and vice versa. We didn't have to explain how Power Girl and Supergirl co-existed and both were "Superman's cousin, Kara". Or how Clark could be single on Erath-One but married on Earth-Two.

We just need someone to create a world where Matrix existed with roughly the same history, merged with that world's Linda Danvers and became Supergirl. Then have her brought to the current main Earth and let her assume a new identity unconnected to Krypton (so not Supergirl, Power Girl, Mae Kent ...). If we are still keeping the Danvers from the Supergirl show as part of Kara's backstory then maybe she is a relative of theirs (or can pass for one since she is a refugee from another reality).

IN the multiverse of course there will ve a Linda Danvers/Matrix version of Supergirl. That would be Earth Sigma, the world than existed between 1986 and 2004, roughly. Also, always there will be the reprints. But I fear than the Matrix era is seen by several fans as the equivalent to the "Atlantean origin" for Powergirl. I can understand that position. After all, Kara Zor-El was Supergirl.But the work of Peter David was so good giving Linda Danvers her own voice than made her a character of her own. Supergirl, Kara, even in fact has not returned to the Linda Danvers identity, reinforcing the notion than Linda is a distinct character.

Yes, how to overwrite Linda in the modern era without fall in many contradictions is the challenge. And which role she is going to work with the Superfamily.
One option is simply say than she is a survivor of a previous continuity, a trick used with Powergirl and now with Kon-El. But that idea seems to end being overwritten because you also have to worry about a previous continuity and it get complicated fast.

And the biggest problem is the presence of the OG Supergirl in the continuum. Waid has reestablished parts of Supergirl origin, so there are little space for Linda in there. We could say than part of her adventures as Supergirl happened in the pocket universe and the mission Superman had there was going to rescue Linda from that place leaving aside the darker not more in continuity elements.
Could be also than Linda was the "replacement Supergirl": When Superman was on an space mission, he left his Superman robots to watch in his absence; Supergirl, instead, leave Linda Danvers, the replacement Supergirl, a fan who under undisclosed circumstances gained superpowers than permited her to stand as Supergirl, something than the OG Supergirl accepted. The twist: modern day, the relationship between them is estranged: As Supergirl pased more time in space than Superman, specially because she never has felt totally adapted to earth, Linda asumed the role more times and in several key moments, maybe even making a better job. In some moment the strained relationship broke out. Is unclear if Linda left the role or if she was asked to leave by Kara. To make the problem worse, Linda and Kara adopted fathers are brothers.
Ok, the part of the relationship is a little meta twist, but I think it could work, at least for a fanfic.

[SuperX]

Why can't the story actually play out the same
Matrix is created by good lex in another universe
Our superman goes there brings her back
All while Kara is gone
Then becomes Supergirl
Merges with Linda to save her
Still supergirl
The merge takes away her protoplasm side and adds new earth born angel powers
Linda goes to another uncovers ehas a daughter with thst universes superman
Comes back without her
Depressed and angry she quits

Then we pick up where that left off