Linda Danvers should be brought back separately from Kara

[walk]

Why does Kara have to be the inventor of the Supergirl name? Even pre-crisis there was a Supergirl before her, and Post-Crisis she was the third Supergirl. There's no reason Linda's time as Supergirl couldn't have all happened before Kara came to Earth. I think the story works much better that way because it allows Matrix/Linda to fill the adoptive family role for Superman she always did when she was around since he hadn't discovered his blood relative yet.

The premise is of the character is - artificial super being who doesn't know if she is truly alive merges with evil murder victim to become an angelic being and seek redemption. That's it. The specifics of the pocket universe or being created by Luthor don't matter and getting bogged down by them is why Didio tried to make everyone forget she ever existed in the first place. With Kara the specifics of how she can both be old enough to have actually lived on Krypton and remember what it was like and young enough to be the younger cousin of someone who was a baby when it blew up don't matter. The only thing that matters is that she is Superman's cousin from Krypton, no matter how much that doesn't make sense if you think about it for 2 seconds. If you think readers are as stupid as Didio does, then the concept can be reduced further to 'human-angel hybrid.'

It wouldn't matter how you try to explain Linda's time as Supergirl or when you set it Kara within the wider sphere of pop culture is and always will be Supergirl and that's not going to change the same way Barbara Gordon is Batgirl despite Bette Kane existing several years before her also are you seriously trying to compare Kara's being stuck in suspended animation on her way to Earth (a common sci-fi trope present in many movies, tv shows..etc) to Linda whole Matrix/Earth Angel debacle because that some false equivalence.

It's not matter of audience intelligence it's just cleaning up messy storytelling because superhero comics have a tendency to mistake complexity for depth.

[walk]

But but but ,I like Matrix

And what about Ariella?

Matrix essentially "died" after merging with Linda at least narratively as after a point even the book itself stops pretending it's two beings sharing one body, it was just Linda. If they were to bring her back it'd be better to have her be separate and completely independent from Linda, at least that way things like her artificial nature, alternate reality origins and weird powers can stand apart as it's own thing instead of being weirdly squished into Linda backstory.

As for Ariella she can still be Linda's daughter who due to circumstances she lost and you can play with that a number of ways, either it's Linda's overall goal to get her back that sends her down a dark path (Villainous Multiverse of Madness Wanda Linda) or a ghost from her past that still haunts and why she largely retired from being a traditional hero (jaded P.I Jessica Jones type Linda, you could even keep the fact an alternate reality Clark is her father for the drama.

[Sacred Knight]

It could easily be done, they're different enough and she could just go by a new code-name outside of Supergirl. Would just be a question of do you bring her back with her post-Crisis history, or just reboot her entirely.

[marhawkman]

It could easily be done, they're different enough and she could just go by a new code-name outside of Supergirl. Would just be a question of do you bring her back with her post-Crisis history, or just reboot her entirely.

Linda as "Flamebird" could work, especially if it's the Earth-Angel look.

[SuperX]

It could easily be done, they're different enough and she could just go by a new code-name outside of Supergirl. Would just be a question of do you bring her back with her post-Crisis history, or just reboot her entirely.

I'm not ever into a complete reboot of a character,cause without the history it stops being the same character.

[SuperX]

Can we all agree thst Linda with the short brown hair and a foot of height knocked off from matrix is what we all want?

[Thor-Ul]

It wouldn't matter how you try to explain Linda's time as Supergirl or when you set it Kara within the wider sphere of pop culture is and always will be Supergirl and that's not going to change the same way Barbara Gordon is Batgirl despite Bette Kane existing several years before her also are you seriously trying to compare Kara's being stuck in suspended animation on her way to Earth (a common sci-fi trope present in many movies, tv shows..etc) to Linda whole Matrix/Earth Angel debacle because that some false equivalence.

It's not matter of audience intelligence it's just cleaning up messy storytelling because superhero comics have a tendency to mistake complexity for depth.

We are not talking about replace Kara, we are talking about bringing back Linda and keep her co existing with Kara. Kate does, she pops up from time to time, but you can say she exists. We are not sure about Linda in this moment.

Matrix essentially "died" after merging with Linda at least narratively as after a point even the book itself stops pretending it's two beings sharing one body, it was just Linda. If they were to bring her back it'd be better to have her be separate and completely independent from Linda, at least that way things like her artificial nature, alternate reality origins and weird powers can stand apart as it's own thing instead of being weirdly squished into Linda backstory.

We could say she was later set aside as an independent being. She was separated from Linda twice.

As for Ariella she can still be Linda's daughter who due to circumstances she lost and you can play with that a number of ways, either it's Linda's overall goal to get her back that sends her down a dark path (Villainous Multiverse of Madness Wanda Linda) or a ghost from her past that still haunts and why she largely retired from being a traditional hero (jaded P.I Jessica Jones type Linda, you could even keep the fact an alternate reality Clark is her father for the drama.

You always can found an explanation. That is not the problem. Also Ariella appeared in how much issues? Two?

[SuperX]

Well ariella was the reason given for her ending her hero career AND which was the ending of her series,so she is important.

Oh and btw she doesn't really need to "find her" to have her whole purpose in life (hers in character,not hers as a comic character )be about finding her.the longing to find her would be enough to keep her character in a state where she would alwsys be preoccupied or bothered by it

[Thor-Ul]

I'm not ever into a complete reboot of a character,cause without the history it stops being the same character.

She was Supergirl for a long run and it was not the same character then. It could be make than her is the survivor gfrom another continuity but that would make her another Power Girl and another potential continuity maelstrom to worry about. We could simply also make her appear with the fire wing powers, not give them any explanation and then star with her story again. The first step for the character is to stablish her role in the Superman narrative before find where she fits. We need first a "WHY" before a "HOW".

[SuperX]

She was Supergirl for a long run and it was not the same character then. It could be make than her is the survivor gfrom another continuity but that would make her another Power Girl and another potential continuity maelstrom to worry about. We could simply also make her appear with the fire wing powers, not give them any explanation and then star with her story again. The first step for the character is to stablish her role in the Superman narrative before find where she fits. We need first a "WHY" before a "HOW".

But even when PAD changed her character completely ,she still had the memories from her past life as matrix,so she still kept a link to her past,even when she was moving in a totally diffentt direction.

And that didn't take away from.Linda being a compelling character in my book

[sunofdarkchild]

Bringing Linda back with her history intact, whether merged with Matrix or not, is actually simpler than creating a new version of her. You don't have to explain the entire origin of a returning character, and less is actually more in general. The return of one of her big villains such as the Carnivore, Xenon, or Lilith would be enough to justify her coming out of hiding/retirement. She already has the built-in step-sister angle with Superman, which establishes her place in the Superman family. And with her experience she could just take the title of Superwoman and not have to do anything which would step on Kara's toes. There's also the benefit of bringing back her wonderful supporting cast largely as they were.

Giving her a new, modern origin can be done, but it would involve a lot more work and would make it much harder to establish her place in the Superman line. Whatever it is she merges with would have to be explained in much greater detail if the merger happens now as opposed to having already happened years ago. Is it a clone of Kara, a Kryptonian mystical entity, or an actual angel? Maybe it's a demon which becomes angelic by sacrificing itself to save her. The step-sister angle is completely lost in this scenario, so they'd have to work extra hard to find a way to fit her into the Superman family, and without that past experience or connection to Superman it makes much less sense for her to leapfrog over Kara and take the Superwoman title. In this scenario it might be better to just make Linda a supporting character for Kara or the secondary protagonist of a Supergirl book,' which could be what DC needs to find a direction that actually works for Kara.

[SuperX]

It's like folks who say we don't need another origin story in a movie ,just start the hero out already being a hero anf move forward.

Simple stuff really

[JungleBatman]

I came up with a possible idea for reintroducing Linda Danvers
Please take a look: https://community.cbr.com/showthread...=linda+danvers

[SuperX]

I came up with a possible idea for reintroducing Linda Danvers
Please take a look: https://community.cbr.com/showthread...=linda+danvers

So instead of Linda going looking for ariella,have ariella and her dad (or just ariella) looking for her mom.

I like the idea of saying Linda opened herself up for possession and that's why we had such a bad version of her last time we saw her.

[JungleBatman]

Well, It's pretty dang that the guy writing her last had no idea who the character was and thought "I know, send her to hell, that works because she was always evil." It's like the Cassandra Cain stupidity again.