Which New Characters will withstand the Test of Time?

[xhx23x]

Only because the Sliding Time Scale doesn't work in real life.

with how they are abusing that de-aging CGI lately, I wouldn't be surprise if we do end up with the same problem in the MCU.

[scourge]

Depends on how and if the market changes. If your still only marketing to the same handful of people who are predominantly of the same likes then similar characters to those or those connected to the old guard characters will most likely be the one to last. But i don't think that has anything to do with the test of time or the quality of the characters. Comixology top 10 looks a lot different than Diamond's did.

Lack of proper marketing is certainly one of many reasons a character can "fail" to last.
Outright stupidity from editorial ...be it ending books or runs on whims or forcing events that upend runs or other nonsense contribute as well.

[rcaguy]

To be fair, people didn't even want to buy Iceman, Nightcrawler or Storm's solo books either.

And to be honest, where any of those books really about the characters associated with Claremont? No,they really weren't. You might as well say they were alt versions of them,especially Storm.

[mugiwara]

And to be honest, where any of those books really about the characters associated with Claremont? No,they really weren't. You might as well say they were alt versions of them,especially Storm.

One of those books was litterally written by Claremont.

[scourge]

To be fair, people didn't even want to buy Iceman, Nightcrawler or Storm's solo books either.

People wanted to buy them. And they did.

But things like lack of proper marketing and editorial sabotage had an impact.

[rcaguy]

One of those books was litterally written by Claremont.

You're ducking the question.

[ZuLuLu]

Solem- connected to Wolverine and the frenemy relationship might have more longevity than the usual nemesis
Isca- she may show up in Immortal X-Men and X-Men Red and writers other than the creator having interest helps with longevity
Genesis- connected to Apocalypse they have the making of a great Power couple.
Death, Famine, War, and Pestilence. -connected to Apocalypse, so this alone increases the chance always they'll be used
Bei- is going to be in the Knights of X
The White Sword, Redroot, and Pogg ur pogg- we'll have to wait and see if they will be even used any time soon.

Other Arakkii characters
Sevyr Blackmore- villains have a better chance in the crowded world of heroes the fact that he is a pirate and crime lord allows for more versatility than the typical one-note villain.
Khora- most likely will show up in X-Men Red so will get some exposure.

Tarn- they seem to be building him up as a long-term antagonist.
The Locus Vile- they seem ripe for cannon fodder, I can see them eventually see Tarn using his powers to replace most of them with some familiar faces.

[Marvelfan1992]

having new characters is overrated. most people read comics for the characters/teams they already know and love

[Rev9]

Tarn and White Sword in my opinion will make more appearances in the future. On Krakoa I expect Gillen to give Exodus a richer backstory so he'll probably come across as a 'new' character, at this point he is the enigma on the island. We all know what he wants for mutants but what does he want for himself?

[skyvolt2000]

One of those books was litterally written by Claremont.

That was not asked. If your excuse is only Claremont can write them because he did it so well a LONG time ago and nobody else can do it.

That does not FLY.

That is like saying Kirby could only write and draw Black Panther. Yet whose name is commonly associated with Panther? Priest because he gave us the longest run of Black Panther. Hudlin got Panther trades on the shelves and sold them. Coates despite his MANY flaws also got folks to at least LOOK at his run.

Wonder Woman-who did her the most justice? George Perez not her creators.
Batgirl. It took putting Cassandra Cain in that suit to prove a Batgirl book could sell.
Supergirl. She had to be KILLED off because no one could do anything with her until Peter David.
Elmo. HIs creator could do NOTHING with him. Then came Kevin Klash.
Nobody could get the Power Rangers to be a hit here until Saban got a hold of them.

Sometimes it comes down to getting the right talent on a book.

To be fair, people didn't even want to buy Iceman, Nightcrawler or Storm's solo books either.

Correction-they DID want to buy those books.

However they tried them and did not like what they were reading in some cases.

Nightcrawler has had 4 shots. 2 minis and 2 ongoings.

We are still waiting on Storm volume 3.


As Scourge points out a lack of marketing does not help on top of bad editors.

Examples-
New 52 Static Shock. The editor was the issue as he was with Cyborg vol 2 & 3. There is a reason he is no longer active in comics despite a resume that says he can make a book sell better than folks currently at DC & Marvel. Except black lead books.
Impulse. That editor with Ethan Van Sciever improved sales on it (40 issues because that book was slated to be axed around issue 35). BOTH got fired from the book. It lasted 1 year after they were gone.
Burnside Batgirl, Black Lightening and Green Lantern Mosaic-editors ruining books that sold.

[mugiwara]

That was not asked. If your excuse is only Claremont can write them because he did it so well a LONG time ago and nobody else can do it.

That does not FLY.

Nobody could get the Power Rangers to be a hit here until Saban got a hold of them.

I was only replying to the affirmation that those solo didn't seel because they weren't written like Claremont's classic X-Men

Not sure what Power Rangers is doing here. Saban had them from the beginning, right?
Or are you talking about Super Sentai? Because the reason they didn't hit in USA was because of the usual bigotry and need for "characters like me" that makes americans rejrct any non-american series or movies, especially if they only feature asian people.

Correction-they DID want to buy those books.

However they tried them and did not like what they were reading in some cases.

Well, a lot of people don't like what they are reading in ASM or in Thor either and yet it's still selling enough to not get cancelled.
Those titles didn't sell because the character didn't have an long ongoing last century. So readers don't have the habit to purchase them.
Give Storm a helmet and change the title from "Storm" to "Mighty Thor", while Thor is given a solo named "Odinson", and I bet that Ororo's book will sell better than Odinson's.

Put Hellion, Catseye, Tempo, Glob Herman, Magma and Maggot in Uncanny X-Men and tell that it's the main X-title where things happen.
Then put Nightcrawler, Storm, Cyclops, Logan, Jean, Iceman in "Marauders" and let's see if they can outsell Uncanny X-Men.

[Gnostic]

Only because the Sliding Time Scale doesn't work in real life.

Didn't that happen with the James Bond series for decades though? They just keep recasting Bond.

[Ambaryerno]

Didn't that happen with the James Bond series for decades though? They just keep recasting Bond.

There wasn't much in the way of continuity between actors, tho, beyond some broad strokes (IE, loose allusions to Tracy's death in OHMSS under Moore and Dalton).

[mace11]

Only because the Sliding Time Scale doesn't work in real life.

Well x men first class characters from the 60's who survive look the same age in 80's/90's or later x men movies.