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    Congrats Jan for breaking the Top 25 Female heroes list:
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    Glad to hear it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirteen View Post
    Congrats Jan for breaking the Top 25 Female heroes list:
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    Hmm, there's a couple of errors on there. The Vixen in Legends of Tomorrow isn't the character they're talking about (the actress who'd played her in Arrow wasn't available so they gave Mari's grandma Amaya the powers). And they say She-Hulk's original series was Sensational She-Hulk, which was actually her second run.

    Janet could've been a few places higher I reckon. The heroes ahead of her being Rocket (Milestone), Vixen, Marvel Girl, Kate Pryde, Spectrum, Ms. Marvel, Black Canary, Sailor Moon, Scarlet Witch, Raven, Catwoman, Captain Marvel, She-Hulk, Supergirl, Harley Quinn, Invisible Woman, Black Widow, Batgirl, Storm, and Wonder Woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Yes, I know, it mad me so sad to see Jocasta tossed aside and forgotten!

    Jan and Jocasta got along because Jocasta had Jan's mental patterns to a degree. But it seems even Jan forgot about poor Jocasta...

    Well, I have not forgotten Jocasta! She is one of my favorites!
    Good to hear, Phoenixx9! At the very least, Jocasta found solace with Machine Man (however, brief it may have sadly been):


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirteen View Post
    Congrats Jan for breaking the Top 25 Female heroes list:
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    I’m super excited. She’s my favorite Avenger, and definitely in my top 5 favorite Marvel characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirteen View Post
    Congrats Jan for breaking the Top 25 Female heroes list:
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    That's great! I'm glad to see Jan getting some of the respect she deserves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by K7P5V View Post
    Good to hear, Phoenixx9! At the very least, Jocasta found solace with Machine Man (however, brief it may have sadly been):

    Jocasta had a notable Jan-related resurgence in the Dan Scott AVENGERS run, when Hank (creepily) using Jocasta as a Janet-surrogate during his run as Hank Pym: WASP - Scientist Supreme, in tribute to the, then dead, Janet Van Dyne.

    It would be neat to see Jan and Jo share space some in a story.
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    lol, of course Jo would like Jan's costumes.

    Though her calling Hank "Dr Pym" seems odd in hindsight, as Slott would later (in Tony Stark: Iron Man) have Jocasta take the Pym surname herself, considering herself to be his granddaughter. By the way Thirteen, Janet was Tony's girlfriend in that run, so there's your book featuring both Jan and Jo!
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    ^^^I know, right?! Ms. Jo just called him Hank back during the '80s (LOL):


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    Quote Originally Posted by K7P5V View Post
    ^^^I know, right?! Ms. Jo just called him Hank back during the '80s (LOL):

    Aw, that was a sweet moment. I am glad Jocasta got to experience some heartfelt human warmth of appreciation, especially from Jan.

    Thanks. You always provide the best scenes, K7P5V!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Aw, that was a sweet moment. I am glad Jocasta got to experience some heartfelt human warmth of appreciation, especially from Jan.

    Thanks. You always provide the best scenes, K7P5V!
    Thanks, Phoenixx9! Your response is greatly appreciated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    lol, of course Jo would like Jan's costumes.
    Jocasta also inherited Jan's love of different looks -- during the MIGHTY AVENGERS series, Jocasta had dozens of alternate bodies, with different variations on her appearance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    lThough her calling Hank "Dr Pym" seems odd in hindsight, as Slott would later (in Tony Stark: Iron Man) have Jocasta take the Pym surname herself, considering herself to be his granddaughter.
    That was a bit of a shift in attitude for Jocasta, since prior to that Jocasta and Hank were lovers.

    But then, that family tree has always had some awkward kinks when you look at it. She was created to be the "bride of Ultron", and as her creator Ultron was technically her "father" in addition to her "husband".

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    Yeah, and if Hank's her grandfather, then Janet is her grandmother - but since she has Janet's brain engrams, she's also her sister (like how Vision sees Wonder Man as a brother).

    Is it any wonder Viv apparently crashed when trying to explain the family tree in Unstoppable Wasp? Even her synthezoid brain couldn't process the complexities of the Pym/Vision/Van Dyne family tree (which also includes the Maximoffs, since Scarlet Witch was the basis of Virginia Vision, Viv's mother).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dermie View Post
    That was a bit of a shift in attitude for Jocasta, since prior to that Jocasta and Hank were lovers.

    But then, that family tree has always had some awkward kinks when you look at it. She was created to be the "bride of Ultron", and as her creator Ultron was technically her "father" in addition to her "husband".
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