Gwen Stacy Appreciation Thread 2022

[Tabs]

What personality?

Gwendolyne Maxine Stacy was a young woman, still a teenager mostly, so she was still figuring herself out. She didn't seem very self-aware and struggled with understanding herself. She would be ashamed of her negative traits, reject her emotions in one breath, and then excuse them in the next because she was childish and often ruled by her feelings. Her tears were a release for her intense internal emotional energy, and she would cry whether she was happy, angry, or sad. She was possessive, which could come out in her dry and biting sense of humor. She was outwardly prideful and seemed to think others should be honored to have her attention. This behavior was because she was insecure in addition to being proud, outspoken, and invested in herself. She rightly saw Mary Jane as her competition, and interactions with Ms. Watson often brought out that insecurity, resulting in rivalry, clinginess, and defensiveness. She was an all-or-nothing type of person. If she set her eyes on something or someone, she was tenacious. She was teasing and openly sensual and sexual for the era. She was smart and attracted to intelligent and emotionally distant men, likely based on having a father who worked long hours. She was fiercely loyal, especially towards her father, and would get physically violent to defend Peter Parker's reputation. If someone meant something to her, she wanted them there forever. If she felt like someone she cared for was pulling away from her, she'd get anxious and try to save things or freeze them out. She could be quite spiteful and cold, especially if she resented someone. She was childish and did not like feeling vulnerable. She didn't like drama, and she didn't like having to prove herself to anyone, but she could be manipulative and often felt others needed to prove themselves to her. She didn't have much patience for people who irritated her or failed to live up to her idea of masculinity, but she tried to push through her limitations to be her better self, with varied results. She could have nurturing mom energy, but on a bad day, she was a Karen. When she stopped caring, she was insensitive and mean. She was shortsighted. She remembered slights and often made someone work for forgiveness. She was a good person, but it didn't come easily. Oh, and she was a science major, which wasn't explored because the writers didn't consider it essential for a female love interest in the 1960s.

[Lukmendes]

What personality?

Being a generic love interest I guess, which Spider-Gwen isn't.

[Mistah K88]

Gwendolyne Maxine Stacy was a young woman, still a teenager mostly, so she was still figuring herself out. She didn't seem very self-aware and struggled with understanding herself. She would be ashamed of her negative traits, reject her emotions in one breath, and then excuse them in the next because she was childish and often ruled by her feelings. Her tears were a release for her intense internal emotional energy, and she would cry whether she was happy, angry, or sad. She was possessive, which could come out in her dry and biting sense of humor. She was outwardly prideful and seemed to think others should be honored to have her attention. This behavior was because she was insecure in addition to being proud, outspoken, and invested in herself. She rightly saw Mary Jane as her competition, and interactions with Ms. Watson often brought out that insecurity, resulting in rivalry, clinginess, and defensiveness. She was an all-or-nothing type of person. If she set her eyes on something or someone, she was tenacious. She was teasing and openly sensual and sexual for the era. She was smart and attracted to intelligent and emotionally distant men, likely based on having a father who worked long hours. She was fiercely loyal, especially towards her father, and would get physically violent to defend Peter Parker's reputation. If someone meant something to her, she wanted them there forever. If she felt like someone she cared for was pulling away from her, she'd get anxious and try to save things or freeze them out. She could be quite spiteful and cold, especially if she resented someone. She was childish and did not like feeling vulnerable. She didn't like drama, and she didn't like having to prove herself to anyone, but she could be manipulative and often felt others needed to prove themselves to her. She didn't have much patience for people who irritated her or failed to live up to her idea of masculinity, but she tried to push through her limitations to be her better self, with varied results. She could have nurturing mom energy, but on a bad day, she was a Karen. When she stopped caring, she was insensitive and mean. She was shortsighted. She remembered slights and often made someone work for forgiveness. She was a good person, but it didn't come easily. Oh, and she was a science major, which wasn't explored because the writers didn't consider it essential for a female love interest in the 1960s.

That's where they got her being brillaint in the Spectacular animated series (and by extension the Amazing films). How old would we say she, Peter, Mary Jane, Harry, etc. were when she died? 19? 20?

[Mercwmouth12]

https://aiptcomics.com/2022/05/03/gi...-gwen-stacy-1/

HAHAHa

[Matt Rat]

https://aiptcomics.com/2022/05/03/gi...-gwen-stacy-1/

HAHAHa

Burning it all off in one volume rather than spread it out. Such reassuring faith they have in her as a draw

[Tonga]

https://aiptcomics.com/2022/05/03/gi...-gwen-stacy-1/

HAHAHa

Finally Marvel. Now let Leah Williams continue her Amazing Mary Jane run.

[Vortex85]

Finally Marvel. Now let Leah Williams continue her Amazing Mary Jane run.

Yes please

[Frontier]

Finally Marvel. Now let Leah Williams continue her Amazing Mary Jane run.

Here here .

[Spiderfan001]

Finally Marvel. Now let Leah Williams continue her Amazing Mary Jane run.

Only if we get Carlos Gomez on art

And hopefully don't have her lie to Peter about f'ing Mysterio just to get her movie and get a better part/ a spinoff

[Mercwmouth12]

Only if we get Carlos Gomez on art

And hopefully don't have her lie to Peter about f'ing Mysterio just to get her movie and get a better part/ a spinoff

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[Spiderfan001]

None of that happened are blind?Attachment 120756

Yes it did

I have the issue w/me rn

Mj finds out what's up and then says she won't tell anyone only if he re-writes some of her scenes

Even though I agree w/ the changes she made she's basically letting a murderer super-villain who she knows has special powers of illusion go free to make a movie that paints him as sympathetic

Why she doesn't tell Peter is hilariously bad and we don't get a reason for it, even though everything else is well written

Also don't forget MJ soloing the Savage six was dumb AF

[Matt Rat]

Only if we get Carlos Gomez on art

And hopefully don't have her lie to Peter about f'ing Mysterio just to get her movie and get a better part/ a spinoff

If they do that, can we just pretend MJ never came back from Witness Protection and is still adventuring out west?

[Digifiend]

Burning it all off in one volume rather than spread it out. Such reassuring faith they have in her as a draw

If they had no faith, they wouldn't have completed and released it at all.

In fact this is the best solution. I assume it's a $10 book, but that's still cheaper than it would've been to buy the remaining three issues, meaning the people who did buy the two issues released before COVID hit won't be so annoyed at having to buy the same content again to get the conclusion.

[Frontier]

Yes it did

I have the issue w/me rn

Mj finds out what's up and then says she won't tell anyone only if he re-writes some of her scenes

Even though I agree w/ the changes she made she's basically letting a murderer super-villain who she knows has special powers of illusion go free to make a movie that paints him as sympathetic

Why she doesn't tell Peter is hilariously bad and we don't get a reason for it, even though everything else is well written

Also don't forget MJ soloing the Savage six was dumb AF

There really should have been far more fallout for the Mysterio thing and the fact that the movie was basically fraudulent than there actually was. And I'm not just talking about Supervillains attacking the premier.

[Obeythemoderators]

Yeah, the way she met Harry is alright, even if they never actually looked that close, even in Ditko's run lol.



The problem is how half assed this attempt at modernization is, a proper modernization would pick up what was there and adapt to modern times, and about the closest thing to modernizing Gwen they'd done is her inconsistent personality, so now she gets a more "modern" female character personality (Being so proactive and wanting to be part of the action), which has very little to do with how she acted back then, because the only scene that actually made me think she was more like her Ditko-era version was when she smushed a cupcake into some jock's face, which is a bitchy thing to do, and Ditko Gwen was a bitch, even then that can be considered going slightly too far (Most aggressive thing I remember her doing was stepping on a book she dropped to prevent Peter from getting it), but regardless, that's the only time she has any semblance with Ditko Gwen, or any other Gwen for that matter.

But yeah, if the story just needs the investigation to happen, it could be better to actually use Carlie for it, since a forgotten detail is that she and Gwen were meant to be friends:







(The many loves of the Amazing Spider-Man)

Marvel just forgot about this afterwards, since there are two moments where Carlie could mention she's Gwen's friend (Superior#31, where MJ talks about Gwen, and Carlie talks like she didn't know Gwen, and ASM#45 vol 5, which she doesn't mention Gwen when retelling her life), and she just doesn't.

But anyways, point is, if the story needs to have an investigation, it could have Carlie being the one doing the investigation on the background after George gets shot, and make Gwen learn what's going on with her father via Carlie (I don't see Jean or Yuri telling Gwen about the investigations), obviously Carlie shouldn't be shown doing as much as Gwen is shown doing here, otherwise she'd be stealing the story from Gwen (Was dumb enough Gwen didn't get her own story in Many loves of Spidey, she shared the spot with Carlie, and Carlie is quite clearly the protagonist), but at least, if the story needs the investigation that badly, have Carlie be the one who does it, maybe Gwen helps a bit, but otherwise the story is about Gwen's regular life, until an issue or two has a super villain annoying her.

Seriously, so many ways this wouldn't look so questionable and allow Gwen to not be Carlie 2.0 even if the overall plot of the investigation has to be kept, otherwise, the story would be better off as a mundane mini with maybe a super villain attack in one issue, but still should actually do what ASM never did and develop Gwen, not throw a fourth incompatible personality in her direction lol.

Another thing they could do is have the first two issues before she meets Peter (To have her develop without his presence), and the rest happen after she does so, I know the comic is cancelled, but the plan was to cover ASM#23~#30, so at most we'd get Peter making random cameos (Like he does in the first issue), but she wouldn't actually meet him (At best, they'd talk briefly but it'd have to be unremarkable since Gwen doesn't know him when she debuts), though maybe she'd meet Spider-Man.

Wait! What story are those pages from?