Should Aunt May die for good?

[Mister Mets]

What makes no sense to you: that the movies can be different from the comic books?

Would you expect a movie based on a famous novel to be a page-by-page / word-for-word exact copy of the novel?

This post made me consider something with adaptations.

There are obviously adaptations of books or plays that have different levels of faithfulness. There is a subplot about Sonny Corleone's anatomy which is missing from the movie adaptation of the Godfather.

Big two comics are a bit different because the source material is so often hundreds if not thousands of comics. It's more like adapting a piece of history in the sense of all the material that's available, so you will have more changes and artistic liberties than if you were adapting a 200 page novel or a two hour play, the same way there will be elements of historical dramas that are inaccurate (composite characters, made up encounters between famous people, etc) which is totally fine.

I do think this line of thinking is limiting to creators of the books who weren't truly involved with the big event comic. Should Tom DeFalco not have done the Eric Masterson Thor story because Jim Starlin had a big Thanos event in the works? Should Rhodey have not taken over as Iron Man because of Secret Wars?

As I said, in-continuity events are always going to reflect the events of the books being published during that period of time.

As for your distinction of "good stories" and "bad stories" mattering more on the subject, nobody sets out to make a bad comic.

I'm aware that no one sets out to make a bad comic, and said as much.

That said, there are compromises that make the likelihood of bad comics greater.

There are some potential fixes, none of which are perfect.

The companies can take steps to reduce the number of mediocre comics, especially when it comes to status quo changes that may trickle into books that are understood to be potentially evergreen.

The writer on an evergreen book can do their best to discern whether a development will be remembered fondly, and take that into account when considering what to add to a title. For big moments, they can also figure out how to incorporate iconic elements of a series, even if it's not the current status quo, the way Claremont and Byrne brought back Beast for Dark Phoenix Saga.

With Masterson & the Infinity Gauntlet, the responsibility would fall to DeFalco and Ron Frenz to make sure the story is as good as possible so the appearance of Masterson in another title would be a welcome development, rather than a turd in a punchbowl.

[Kevinroc]

On the one hand, keeping Aunt May alive means the devastating loss he experienced when Uncle Ben died could happen all over again.

On the other, there will never be a true "Peter has lost everyone and everything that he cares about" story if Aunt May is still in the picture. He'll always be able to return to Aunt May.

[Mercwmouth12]

On the one hand, keeping Aunt May alive means the devastating loss he experienced when Uncle Ben died could happen all over again.

On the other, there will never be a true "Peter has lost everyone and everything that he cares about" story if Aunt May is still in the picture. He'll always be able to return to Aunt May.

But if Peter does have a kid it changes it and what's more important. Having an ederly relative to turn to or your own child that you would do anything to protect and always be there for?

[Kevinroc]

But if Peter does have a kid it changes it and what's more important. Having an ederly relative to turn to or your own child that you would do anything to protect and always be there for?

There are different responsibilities with an elderly relative than there are with a child.

[Mercwmouth12]

what is more compelling to read and something we haven't seen yet?

[Kevinroc]

I'm aware that no one sets out to make a bad comic, and said as much.

That said, there are compromises that make the likelihood of bad comics greater.

There are some potential fixes, none of which are perfect.

The companies can take steps to reduce the number of mediocre comics, especially when it comes to status quo changes that may trickle into books that are understood to be potentially evergreen.

The writer on an evergreen book can do their best to discern whether a development will be remembered fondly, and take that into account when considering what to add to a title. For big moments, they can also figure out how to incorporate iconic elements of a series, even if it's not the current status quo, the way Claremont and Byrne brought back Beast for Dark Phoenix Saga.

With Masterson & the Infinity Gauntlet, the responsibility would fall to DeFalco and Ron Frenz to make sure the story is as good as possible so the appearance of Masterson in another title would be a welcome development, rather than a turd in a punchbowl.

It's kind of late to put the genie back in the bottle on this subject is my overall point.

[PCN24454]

But if Peter does have a kid it changes it and what's more important. Having an ederly relative to turn to or your own child that you would do anything to protect and always be there for?

I think this highlights the problem with how Aunt May was handled by Peter in Life Story.

For all his talk about how she was his responsibility, it was ultimately MJ who did the majority of the work in taking care of her. With two children to also take care of along with her own job, it's natural that MJ would start cracking.

Peter didn't actually do much for them.

[Vegeta]

what is more compelling to read and something we haven't seen yet?

I give up, what is more compelling to read and something we haven't seen yet?

[Mercwmouth12]

spider dad but in ASM and not a AU book

[Vegeta]

spider dad but in ASM and not a AU book

Why would it make a difference? Renew Your Vows, Spider-Girl, that disappointing J.J. Abrams book all showed us what Peter would be like as a father. He's not going to be much different just because now it's the "main" continuity.

[Matt Rat]

Why would it make a difference? Renew Your Vows, Spider-Girl, that disappointing J.J. Abrams book all showed us what Peter would be like as a father. He's not going to be much different just because now it's the "main" continuity.

Spider-Girl handled it the best I feel. Peter acted a lot more grown-up, and had somewhat of a chip on his shoulder because of his injury, so while he still had the happy ending, he also had a personal struggle and it didn't just shove him to the side in favour of Mayday. At one point, he even tries to be Spider-Man full time again.

Renew Your Vows Peter kind of acts just like 'modern Peter' does, that's likely because he was never forced to retire with a handicap, and simply paused his career to raise Annie after she was born, and resumed when she and MJ proved capable on the battlefield.

Considering Annie grows up to be of vital importance to the Web of Destiny, one wonders just how 616 Peter as a father can even match the uniqueness of the Vows family at this point. I feel Marvel have basically made the Vows versions the most 'accomplished' takes on the Parkers to date. Intentional or not.

The best way to go about rivalling that uniqueness I feel is to have Aunt May help him and MJ raise a kid who kicks the devil's ass, given how all involved were part of a deal that helped him gain a foothold in the first place.

[Majesty]

If that happened it would just be used to make Dock Ock Spider-Man's number 1 nemesis again.

[PCN24454]

If that happened it would just be used to make Dock Ock Spider-Man's number 1 nemesis again.

Isn’t he already on that track anyways?

[DrewHLMW]

yes but she's never dying, not now since they just dropped the entire cancer storyline. Beyond acts like it never happened.

[Obeythemoderators]