Superhero teams after JSA and before JLA

[MajorHoy]

But the more costumed / powered "superheroes" you have running around between the JSA and the JLA, the less importance there is to the first formation of the JLA.

It's like after the comic book Crisis on Infinite Earths, the less important and awe-inspiring later "Crisis"-type events could often seem. They were victims of "been there/done that" fatigue.

[Digifiend]

ducklord, Skyman can fit, due to the fact he's now dead and been succeeded by Stargirl.

It's actually Jade and Obsidian who are a problem, as it would age them up by 40 years and they don't share their father's immortality (though perhaps they SHOULD - Jade and Alan at least are both powered by the Starheart).

[The Darknight Detective]

This is why going back to the pre-CoIE days where the JSA was on a separate Earth (Earth-2) and only existed in old comic book stories on the JLA's Earth (Earth-1) would make more sense and solve so many of these problems.

Of course, but we fortunately grew up with the Multiverse experience. Had we started reading comics post-COIE, we would most likely have a different opinion (though wrong ).

[ducklord]

ducklord, Skyman can fit, due to the fact he's now dead and been succeeded by Stargirl.

It's actually Jade and Obsidian who are a problem, as it would age them up by 40 years and they don't share their father's immortality (though perhaps they SHOULD - Jade and Alan at least are both powered by the Starheart).

With Skyman, it's more of a question of "how" does his timeline work if he's an II member in the 80's. In the current continuity he's a time-tossed member of the Seven Soldiers that eventually is rescued during a JLA/JSA team-up during the "modern" age, allowing him to be a relatively young man who can lead II before dying.

If he's active as a young man in the 80's, it suggests that his temporal adventures were somewhat weirder (or that the SSoV were rescued much earlier, which is somewhat of an issue for Green Arrow). There's probably a solution, but I don't want to fry my brain cells over it

As for Jade and Obsidian, in this version of continuity, they'd both be pretty danged old by now. Even accounting for various Starheart shenanigans, they'd be wily veterans at this point, not late twentysomethings. Jade's relationship with Kyle would probably be quietly erased.

(Speaking of Alan's kids, their continued existence as "young" characters gets weirder with every passing year. Their mom, unless something has changed, was the golden age Thorn, who, last I checked, wasn't immortal. I mean, sure, a 70something closeted Alan Scott is *capable* of siring kids, but what about their mom?)

As for the presence of an 80's II diluting the JLA, I think if it were a flash-in-the-pan group of JSA kids trying to make a go of it and ultimately failing, it wouldn't be that bad. If the DCU's a clutterverse with a full-fledged JSA and All-Star Squadron, the "costumed super-hero" thing is already out of the historical bag.

Not that I'm genuinely advocating this approach, mind... it's just a fun thought experiment.

[Primal Slayer]

But the more costumed / powered "superheroes" you have running around between the JSA and the JLA, the less importance there is to the first formation of the JLA.

It's like after the comic book Crisis on Infinite Earths, the less important and awe-inspiring later "Crisis"-type events could often seem. They were victims of "been there/done that" fatigue.

Not necessarily. Right now in tha YJ-verse they have broken it down to:
JSA during WWII

A vigilante team consisting of OG Black Canary (she was not part of JSA)

JL

The introduction of Superman and the JL is basically when heroics became more well known, publicized, and accepted

[Jon Clark]

What if the team that appears between the McCarthy era JSA disbanding and the JLA appearance was the JSA themselves?

The idea of the JSA vanishing for a "period of time" has been brought up quite a bit as a way to explain how Infinity Inc can be young and how the original JSAers could have interacted with the JLA. So suppose the JSA spent that decade or two fighting in Asgard or accidentally erased by Johnny Thunder but came back maybe 10-20 years before Clark's debut before deciding to hang up the costumes again.

The main problem with any "Lost Generation" team though is that since the JSA remains a fixed point in the 40's and the JLA keeps sliding forward the time between the two will require explanations of who was active btween and middle generation *Justice Experience, realtime Infinty inc) and the other teams. Right now we need to explain about 50 years (early 50's JSA disbanding to roughly 15 years ago JLA debut) but if we fill in that 50 years then a decade from now there will be another 10 year gap to fill

[bat39]

Not necessarily. Right now in tha YJ-verse they have broken it down to:
JSA during WWII

A vigilante team consisting of OG Black Canary (she was not part of JSA)

JL

The introduction of Superman and the JL is basically when heroics became more well known, publicized, and accepted

The Infinity Inc would also be seen as an extension of the JSA era rather than a new age of heroism.