Original Green Goblin (Norman Osborn) Appreciation 2022

[Xwho]

What do people think of the Gold Goblin suit and the interview about the series?

[Huntsman Spider]

yeah would have boosted his standings among the heroes in the marvel greatly

Indeed, it sure would have.

What do people think of the Gold Goblin suit and the interview about the series?

Interview sounded promising. As for the suit, I like it in the sense of Norman trying to get as far as possible from Green Goblin imagery, but not being able to fully escape from it, given that the media still calls his new costumed alter ego a "Goblin."

[Xwho]

Indeed, it sure would have.



Interview sounded promising. As for the suit, I like it in the sense of Norman trying to get as far as possible from Green Goblin imagery, but not being able to fully escape from it, given that the media still calls his new costumed alter ego a "Goblin."

What do you think will happen if the sales to the series are good or bad?

[Huntsman Spider]

What do you think will happen if the sales to the series are good or bad?

If it's good, it lasts longer than the five issues it was intended to last, or it gets a follow-up series or extra-sized one-shot. If not, it's just five issues.

[Xwho]

If it's good, it lasts longer than the five issues it was intended to last, or it gets a follow-up series or extra-sized one-shot. If not, it's just five issues.

What are the chances that people will be interested in seeing the Gold Goblin in more depth considering the criticism against Norman?

I could like to see more of him as the Gold Goblin.

With everything he has done they might be able to end this Chapter in his life without him going back to evil or him getting killed, maybe sacrificing him self.

[SpideyClone]

What are the chances that people will be interested in seeing the Gold Goblin in more depth considering the criticism against Norman?

I could like to see more of him as the Gold Goblin.

With everything he has done they might be able to end this Chapter in his life without him going back to evil or him getting killed, maybe sacrificing him self.

I'd like to see it go beyond the 5 issues and give Norman a shot at redemption, or at least balancing the scales. As it is, I'm sure whatever endgame they (Marvel editorial) have in mind for the series and Norman was decided months ago. Likely the status quo of Norman/Green Goblin will return before long.

[Xwho]

I'd like to see it go beyond the 5 issues and give Norman a shot at redemption, or at least balancing the scales. As it is, I'm sure whatever endgame they (Marvel editorial) have in mind for the series and Norman was decided months ago. Likely the status quo of Norman/Green Goblin will return before long.

Why do think it was already decided?

[Tendrin]

If it's good, it lasts longer than the five issues it was intended to last, or it gets a follow-up series or extra-sized one-shot. If not, it's just five issues.

It's Cantwell so it's going to be good, and in the recent interview, he said:

"

In this book, at least these first five issues, the idea was for him to arc in a way where we get him into a place where he's not just motivated by guilt and fear of how awful he is. What does it mean for him to actually do something good and to actually help someone? That is really the journey for him.

So I'd guess the idea of doing more has crossed his mind or at least hasn't been ruled out, but I'd not be surprised to see it just be the five issue character study it's intended to be.

[Jman27]

Why do think it was already decided?

cause if doc ock cant last as superior spiderman highly doubt norman will be allow to remain good for a long time maybe 3-4 years at best?

[Huntsman Spider]

It's Cantwell so it's going to be good, and in the recent interview, he said:

"

So I'd guess the idea of doing more has crossed his mind or at least hasn't been ruled out, but I'd not be surprised to see it just be the five issue character study it's intended to be.

As someone who started reading his Iron Man for Ben Reilly/Scarlet Spider and stuck around for the excellent character work on Tony Stark . . . I definitely concur.

[Hypestyle]

so what relationship did Osborn have with Howard Stark at all? Just curious.

[exile001]

As someone who started reading his Iron Man for Ben Reilly/Scarlet Spider and stuck around for the excellent character work on Tony Stark . . . I definitely concur.

Same, it has been an excellent run.

[Blanks]

It hit me; it makes we wonder if this turnabout with Norman is to make his 616-version as sympathetic as the Tobey Maguire Spidey-verse Norman, or even the 90’s Animated series? That version was never truly a bad guy… but the Goblin persona was.

This could be the comics version to go that route…. Maybe.

[Huntsman Spider]

so what relationship did Osborn have with Howard Stark at all? Just curious.

Not much of a relationship from what I could tell in canon, though the Spider-Gwen: Gwen-Verse miniseries showed an alternate reality where Norman and Howard raised a version of Gwen named Toni Stacy, whose armored suit was called Iron G.W.E.N., which stood for "Guardian Ware Exo Network."

Same, it has been an excellent run.

Oh, yeah.

It hit me; it makes we wonder if this turnabout with Norman is to make his 616-version as sympathetic as the Tobey Maguire Spidey-verse Norman, or even the 90’s Animated series? That version was never truly a bad guy… but the Goblin persona was.

This could be the comics version to go that route…. Maybe.

Funny enough, that was the route the comics originally went with him in the 1960s and 1970s, before he caused Gwen Stacy's death, then accidentally offed himself trying to kill Peter, and stayed offed for 20+ years until being brought back in the 1990s at the end of the Clone Saga (and as the mastermind of said saga) as a fully, unrepentantly, even irredeemably evil version of himself.

[Tendrin]

It hit me; it makes we wonder if this turnabout with Norman is to make his 616-version as sympathetic as the Tobey Maguire Spidey-verse Norman, or even the 90’s Animated series? That version was never truly a bad guy… but the Goblin persona was.

This could be the comics version to go that route…. Maybe.

It was one of my initial thoughts too. The Dafoe interpretation is something of a popular character himself.

I think more importantly, though, stories like this serve to reinforce why Spidey is justified in not killing his foes -- especially the Goblin. If you want to keep the Goblin around, at some point, there has to be an in-story justification for why Peter never ends him no matter how dangerous he is. The story occasionally has to remind you that he's right to make that call. If Goblisn keeping show up and trying to murder Aunt May or whoever else Peter cares about, at some point, you run into the 'Joker Problem' that's always bandied about. Showing that a character like Norman can evolve reinforces one aspect of Peter's overarching story.

(Stupid Nick Spencer's Mephistol Deal BS should just never be spoken of again.)