Battle of the Boomerangs!

[BiteTheBullet]

You are thinking too hard

Among other things the Batgod does is dodge bullets, jump 20 feet or more and punch out people way above his weight class and your worried about a batarang that comes back?

[Rightoya]

They're all magic so.... they all strong enough lol.

This is not how Superman's problems with magic truly work, magic is not like kryptonite for him, and Xena's Chakram has no magic powerful enough to cut kryptonians because it is from a world where nothing remotely that durable even exists.

A power levels debate about the tiara.

Sure, why not.

That would be to craziest power levels debate yet, because Xena is without not to the Chakram related super-magic less powerful than even DCEU Wonder Woman, and Sailor Moon reaches heights comparable to super-amped comic iterations of Wonder Woman. Although to be fair, Xena's Chakram at least outclasses DCEU Wonder Woman's tiara easily for obvious reasons.

[Fuzzy Mittens]

I feel like this 'which magic tiara is stronger' debate would be alot more interesting if more people were aware of Sailor Moon.

[Primal Slayer]

This is not how Superman's problems with magic truly work, magic is not like kryptonite for him, and Xena's Chakram has no magic powerful enough to cut kryptonians because it is from a world where nothing remotely that durable even exists.



That would be to craziest power levels debate yet, because Xena is without not to the Chakram related super-magic less powerful than even DCEU Wonder Woman, and Sailor Moon reaches heights comparable to super-amped comic iterations of Wonder Woman. Although to be fair, Xena's Chakram at least outclasses DCEU Wonder Woman's tiara easily for obvious reasons.

Superman has always been vulnerable to magic, there's nothing special about Dianas tiara. Xenas chakram is magical and can kill gods. Everything about this post is one giant what if but yeah this bring logic into it lol

[WonderLight789]

Superman has always been vulnerable to magic, there's nothing special about Dianas tiara. Xenas chakram is magical and can kill gods. Everything about this post is one giant what if but yeah this bring logic into it lol

Xenas chakram could only do that before she combined it. And then there is the time she had the power to kill Gods. But she lost that too. And Gods in Xena verse are far from imprressive power wise compared to a lot of high tiers in comics. Superman has no weakness to magic. He just doesn't have any especial resistence to it. But he can take magic attacks and you usually need strong magic to truly damage him. Something that the Tiara has. Based on feats Chakram doesn't have better perfprmances than the Tiara. And Sailor Moon is the strongest of the 3.

[Rightoya]

Superman has always been vulnerable to magic

To powerful magic, but you are acting like Harry Potter would be an existential threat to him.

there's nothing special about Dianas tiara.

Not special tiaras don't behead DC gods, have magical boomerang effects, or slice through Superman's neck, you might as well claim that she tends to use a sword without any special properties or even that there is nothing special about her lasso.

Xenas chakram is magical and can kill gods.

Xena's Chakram has for DC comic standards extreme weak magic, and can kill gods that are in comparison to comic kryptonians extreme weak, you are using the same fallacy that leads to such crazy threads like Kratos vs the comic iterations of Wonder Woman, Thor and Shazam put together based on that Kratos has killed so many gods in his own world.

Everything about this post is one giant what if but yeah this bring logic into it lol

Wrongly acting like Superman faints to any magical sneeze, or that the title god means a character can kill much more powerful beings than even exist in their own world is not bringing logic into this, DCEU Wonder Woman also could not threaten Saint Seya greek gods like Hades just because she has killed the crazy much less powerful DCEU Ares in her own world.

[Primal Slayer]

To powerful magic, but you are acting like Harry Potter would be an existential threat to him.



Not special tiaras don't behead DC gods, have magical boomerang effects, or slice through Superman's neck, you might as well claim that she tends to use a sword without any special properties or even that there is nothing special about her lasso.



Xena's Chakram has for DC comic standards extreme weak magic, and can kill gods that are in comparison to comic kryptonians extreme weak, you are using the same fallacy that leads to such crazy threads like Kratos vs the comic iterations of Wonder Woman, Thor and Shazam put together based on that Kratos has killed so many gods in his own world.



Wrongly acting like Superman faints to any magical sneeze, or that the title god means a character can kill much more powerful beings than even exist in their own world is not bringing logic into this, DCEU Wonder Woman also could not threaten Saint Seya greek gods like Hades just because she has killed the crazy much less powerful DCEU Ares in her own world.

Harry Potter probably would be a threat to Superman lol.

Xenas chakram most likely slice through Supermans neck.

Trying to compare her lasso to her tiara is pretty funny but if you want to try to act like they are the same....you do you.

You want to say that Xena's Chakram is weak and flimsy, I'm saying the opposite. Put either in each others worlds and power dynamics change.

[Rightoya]

Harry Potter probably would be a threat to Superman lol.

Xenas chakram most likely slice through Supermans neck.

Trying to compare her lasso to her tiara is pretty funny but if you want to try to act like they are the same....you do you.

You want to say that Xena's Chakram is weak and flimsy, I'm saying the opposite. Put either in each others worlds and power dynamics change.

Are you even trying to be logical, Harry Potter magic gets often enough blocked by normal walls, and has never affected anything even 0,001% as durable as comic kryptonians.

Xena's Chakram most likely shatters into pieces if it hits anything even a fraction as durable as a kryptonian with full force, and would most likely even get eradicated from the sheer air-friction if Wonder Woman throws it fast enough to hit a speeding Superman in rage with it in the first place.

Trying to claim a magical tiara with feats outside of anything in the Xena and Hercules verse is nothing special is not even funny, it just makes no sense, and arguing against your own strawman is not very funny either.

I am saying Xena's Chakram is weak in comparison to Wonder Woman's tiara in the comics, because Xena is extreme weak in comparison to the comic iteration of the Wonder Woman with the most boomerang-like tiara based on their respective feats, and the same dynamic is true for their equipment. You are seemingly trying to say Xena's Chakram is strong because we should assume that their equipment gets respectively upgraded and downgraded to each others verses, which makes no sense because the thread question never mentioned anything about how the weapons would perform if they get rewritten for each others verses.

[Primal Slayer]

Are you even trying to be logical, Harry Potter magic gets often enough blocked by normal walls, and has never affected anything even 0,001% as durable as comic kryptonians.

Xena's Chakram most likely shatters into pieces if it hits anything even a fraction as durable as a kryptonian with full force, and would most likely even get eradicated from the sheer air-friction if Wonder Woman throws it fast enough to hit a speeding Superman in rage with it in the first place.

Trying to claim a magical tiara with feats outside of anything in the Xena and Hercules verse is nothing special is not even funny, it just makes no sense, and arguing against your own strawman is not very funny either.

I am saying Xena's Chakram is weak in comparison to Wonder Woman's tiara in the comics, because Xena is extreme weak in comparison to the comic iteration of the Wonder Woman with the most boomerang-like tiara based on their respective feats, and the same dynamic is true for their equipment. You are seemingly trying to say Xena's Chakram is strong because we should assume that their equipment gets respectively upgraded and downgraded to each others verses, which makes no sense because the thread question never mentioned anything about how the weapons would perform if they get rewritten for each others verses.

Your strawman argument saying that Xenas Chakram is weaker with no real backup or that Harry Potter magic is somehow weak. It can kill people and likely do severe harm to Superman or WW. If Storm can go up against WW, Xena surely can and if she can go up against gods, she'd probably have a fun time with Superman as well.

[WonderLight789]

Your strawman argument saying that Xenas Chakram is weaker with no real backup or that Harry Potter magic is somehow weak. It can kill people and likely do severe harm to Superman or WW. If Storm can go up against WW, Xena surely can and if she can go up against gods, she'd probably have a fun time with Superman as well.

What kind of argument is this? Xena's weapon has no feats on par with WW's Tiara. And her Gods are very weak compared to the beings WW has fought in the comics. Xena would get stomped by either Superman or WW. Only reason why Xena could fight Gods was when another God gave her the power to do so. And those Gods again, are weak as hell compared to comic WW and SM. And this is not an opinion. It is a fact based on feats. Your argument only works if we go by the lazy writing approach that characters are only allowed to be as strong as the plot needs them to be. But that approach makes no sense. It does nothing for a story only adding inconsistencies and plot holes. DC vs vampires is on of the most rcent examples. Storm only fought WW in a non canon crossover event that was fan voted. DC had a a deel that Batman and Superman weren't allowed to lose. So as usual they threw WW under the bus. And since xmen show was at its popularity peak. Obviously storm would win a popularity contest at the time. And their fight was yet again another example of bad writing. Nerfing a character to give the other one a chance. WW who can react to lightning couldn't react to storm's lighting. Same WW who has taken worse was too easily put down by a lightning bolt. And storm who has only human durability. Could tank a kick to the head by WW. This is what happens when we go by your logic that story matters and power levels are not important. You have battles with outcomes that make no sense for the already established stats of every character. Because the writer wanted a weaker character to win a random battle, without even trying to come up with a context to somehow explain how things could end the way they did.


Also it is funny to see you say Xena can surely go up against WW but only say maybe SM too. Didn't you say you view WW as a comparable character to SM? Now it looks like you view her as far inferior. Don't let subconscious sexism present in society to get the best of you.

[Perseus]

In what actual world is Xena even considered comparable to Diana? LOL, they fight the same gods in name only, all their comparisons are surface level at best. Xena would be a candle compared to the fire of a star that is Diana, it's not a far match up.

Sailor Moon>>>>>Diana>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Xena

I like the character, but she's not even in the same state let alone the same ballpark in power.

Storm vs WW was a fan picked and voted outcome in a non-canon fight that happened during the height of X-Men in the 90's. It literally means nothing outside of Storm being more popular than Diana at that time and DC caring more about Superman and Batman winning their fights via contract and not caring about Diana or the others. Which, by some people's logic, is perfectly fine because clearly people cared more about Storm despite the fact that Diana would actually crush her in a fight. Maybe it was the characterization?

On topic, Sailor has a clear advantage due to the sear versatility of her boomerang. Diana has limited use of her tiara boomerang in recent years, outside of it being virtually as sharp as her sword and indestructible, it doesn't display much else. She hasn't, for example, imbued it with Zeus's lightning or Hestia's fire and we can only assume she throws it at faster than light speeds due to her strength. Xena has not and will never fight beings on Sailor or Diana's level, so her boomerang is easily outmatched here. Assuming this topic is about which is the best and not which you like better or hold more of an attachment to.

[Fuzzy Mittens]

With Sailor Moons tiara being such a central element for her, I feel like it might be more interesting to compare it to the lasso itself.

[Primal Slayer]

In what actual world is Xena even considered comparable to Diana? LOL, they fight the same gods in name only, all their comparisons are surface level at best. Xena would be a candle compared to the fire of a star that is Diana, it's not a far match up.

Sailor Moon>>>>>Diana>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Xena

I like the character, but she's not even in the same state let alone the same ballpark in power.

Storm vs WW was a fan picked and voted outcome in a non-canon fight that happened during the height of X-Men in the 90's. It literally means nothing outside of Storm being more popular than Diana at that time and DC caring more about Superman and Batman winning their fights via contract and not caring about Diana or the others. Which, by some people's logic, is perfectly fine because clearly people cared more about Storm despite the fact that Diana would actually crush her in a fight. Maybe it was the characterization?

On topic, Sailor has a clear advantage due to the sear versatility of her boomerang. Diana has limited use of her tiara boomerang in recent years, outside of it being virtually as sharp as her sword and indestructible, it doesn't display much else. She hasn't, for example, imbued it with Zeus's lightning or Hestia's fire and we can only assume she throws it at faster than light speeds due to her strength. Xena has not and will never fight beings on Sailor or Diana's level, so her boomerang is easily outmatched here. Assuming this topic is about which is the best and not which you like better or hold more of an attachment to.

Depends on who chooses the world lol. Nothing about her gods says that she or they are weaker.

[WonderLight789]

Depends on who chooses the world lol. Nothing about her gods says that she or they are weaker.

The feats do. ''Depends on who chooses the world''. That sounds like a different way to say depends who writes the story. But that is not how things work. Xena is a human with human stats. Who was only able to fight the Gods in her world when another God gave her the power to do so. She lost that power later on. A fight between Xena and a properly-well writen WW based on established stats would end in less than a second in Diana's favor. And Sailor Moon well. Usagi would beat Xena, Diana and superman combined without difficulty.

[Perseus]

Depends on who chooses the world lol. Nothing about her gods says that she or they are weaker.

That's not how battles work. You take the character and what they have done in their universe as their feats and abilities. Choosing the world means you purposefully empower or depower a character, which is bias and unfair to the characters and their powers/abilities. We know Diana is thousands of times more powerful than Xena because of her own accomplishments against her villains, villains that would chew up and spit out Xena just as fast as Diana mind you.

Nothing but the source material. This is like saying that the gods in God of War are the same as the gods in the Greek myths, outside of name they're clearly not. Not in character or power level, you need only look at what they have actually done to prove that.