That's how it always started. I first got introduced to Spider-man watching his Amazing Friends and reruns of the 70's live action series. Then I moved into comics a decade later because of the character I loved from the outside media.
Manga is overrated. 'growing characters' is overrated. Manga may be popular with some fans... but until they have product that lasts 60-80 years, they don't compare. They're the epitome of 'burn bright and burn out'. Closest American-ish thing we have is Power Rangers that has had about 30 different incarnations... but the 'new' stuff never compares, and every time they start a new toyline or comic series... it's always right back to 'Mighty Morphin'.
I don't think Marvel care much for Ultimate Pete or the Ultimate Universe in general. They tease Miles going back almost as often as they tease Mephisto and never follow up. The last time we saw the Ultimate Universe in Cates' Venom run, it'd been trashed again, and we've been left lingering on that cliffhanger for years.
Where as I watched Spider-Man: The Animated Series, where Peter advanced and grew as a young adult, getting married, and telling his own creator he simply was'nt the same person he'd been writing all these years, and that all characters, even ones of fiction, have to grow up.
Last edited by Matt Rat; 03-17-2022 at 02:25 AM.
And yet DC and Marvel frequently get outsold by manga series that have been around for a third of the time most of their properties have existed.
That applies more to the Big Two in many ways, actually.They're the epitome of 'burn bright and burn out'.
The Mighty Morphin brand was getting stale as early as the second season. Going back to it is familiar and safe but no guarantee of success. Just look at the box office for the 2017 movie.Closest American-ish thing we have is Power Rangers that has had about 30 different incarnations... but the 'new' stuff never compares, and every time they start a new toyline or comic series... it's always right back to 'Mighty Morphin'.
Marvel won't let him grow. He can never reach his full potential as long as Marvel keeps him as a man child
This should probably go in the controversial opinions thread, but I found the '90s Spider-Man cartoon pretty dull at the time and still do. I vastly preferred the '60s series and Spectacular.
Keep in mind that you have about as much chance of changing my mind as I do of changing yours.
Who said I was talking about Spidey and his Amazing Friends? Several of the classic animated series are on Disney+
And even so, those kids will eventually buy a lot of trades that cover the years where Peter was married, expecting a child, lost his Aunt etc, if you think some of them won't be wondering what happened to that guy, you're a wishful thinker. Not all of them will mindlessly consume and like what Marvel did to him afterwards.
Sounds like you're just saying things to be contrarian now, or you truly don't know or care to know anything about what makes these sort of heroes special.
Spetacular still grew characters, and Wiesman still had plans to cover Peter's life post-graduation had it not been axed.
Last edited by Matt Rat; 03-17-2022 at 09:28 AM.
You need to get out of your bubble--Marvel didn't "do" anything to him. They did something to you. They took something you liked away from you. And I'm sorry that upsets you so much. But the idea that a ten-year old is going to pick up an older Spider-Man comic and conclude that they've been robbed of a married Spider-Man and stopped reading the character is you projecting.
Like I said, if readers cared about Spider-Man being married, Amazing wouldn't continue to be one of Marvel's best-selling comic books. If most current readers don't care, why would new readers care? You are part of a small, but vocal, minority but have convinced yourself otherwise.
Last edited by phonogram12; 03-17-2022 at 11:47 AM.
Keep in mind that you have about as much chance of changing my mind as I do of changing yours.