I would be all for that. If they're brining back Ritter as Jessica, I'd want the same actress back as Trish and I'd want a redemption arc rather then letting her rot on the Raft.
Re: Iron Fist, I've said a bunch of times I think Jones was a really good Danny - in the few scenes where he was written to be more light-hearted or zen. He just sucked at being angry and angsty, which isn't how Danny is normally presented. However, stories of his lack of commitment to the training makes me fall on the side of recasting. I'd be fine dropping Danny and Luke's stories as having been resolved themselves in the intervening years and pair them together as Heroes for Hire. And yes, let Colleen keep her power - maybe even get a new codename or something. (or maybe not, depending on what she's up to - codenames aren't always necessary)
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With this season supposedly the longest Disney+ show order so far. They will definitely need excellent supporting characters. Punisher returning is great. The idea of getting Luke back here I like as well. Danny Rand needs a recast period. There is just no excuse for Iron Fist to not be a martial artist capable actor. It severely limits the special effects and stunts to have to switch to body double or just dumb down fight choreography for an actor that can't hack it.
No offence to Jones but I mean he's not the strongest actor, he's not an excellent martial artist to make up for that. If you can upgrade on acting ability, fight proficiency what's the point of limiting yourself again resurrecting the obvious weak link of the Netflix series? Colleen was the star of Iron Fist. But I think Misty needs a recast as well.
He had a few moments. IIRC, there was an episode of Luke's show where they had Danny guest star, and the characterization was much better than the usually angsty Danny, we regularly got.
It isn't that he was just universally horrible, but they did great for casting and at least characterization (much as I didn't love all storylines) for all of the other leads. Cox, Colter, Ritter and Bernthal are awesome in their roles. There's reason to bring those actors back, if you can. (Debra Ann Woll and Eldon Henson are awesome as Karen and Foggy, too.) But I don't think anybody is really going to miss the Netflix version Danny, if we can have a more comics-accurate version.
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I'll make the most of it, I'm an extraordinary machine
Because you really shouldn't try to make Iron Fist into Daredevil. They're just not the same character.
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I feel confident that Iron Fist will be recast. They may even skip over Danny Rand and go to current version -- which would be disappointing.
Trish Walker -- I don't know. She was okay in the series, but wasn't written as the Patsy most of us know and love. That said -- I'm really in no hurry for Jessica Jones to be revived by Disney -- even though I liked the Netflix series. Daredevil was definitely the best of the lot, IMHO.
I'm sorry to hear they're not going to bring back Karen and Foggy (the story is they're not recasting, the characters aren't even included, correct?) but I'll hold off judgment until I see what the show plans to do instead. From his appearance on "She-Hulk" it definitely sounded like he was still doing the same "Nelson & Murdock do-gooders for the people" schtick, so it definitely seems odd for Matt to be doing that without them. So... yeah, I guess we'll see.
Vanessa Fisk got recasted. Sandrine Holt will play her now
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Agreed, it was. I really should watch it again, because I honestly feel like it's ultimately the best adaptation from superhero comics to a tv show that I've seen.
I also think though its success made them want to repeat as much of the gritty street-level feel as possible, which did work out pretty well overall for the group of shows. But I think Matt's cameo in She-Hulk does suggest Disney is not transferring Netflix whole cloth, so we can also get somewhat different versions of the others, too. I mean, I think all of the Netflix heroes but Punisher have been Avengers at some point, right? Maybe they'll go in that direction?
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Be kind to me, or treat me mean
I'll make the most of it, I'm an extraordinary machine
Daredevil was the most solid of the Netflix shows with Season 2 having a minor bump in the road for me. The Netflix shows kept doing this thing where they'd dump an interesting character for a less interesting character. When Punisher bowed out for large parts of Season 2 and Elektra came in it was a bump for me. Outside of that DD was great.
Luke Cage season one was great but swapping Cottonmouth for Diamondback same thing as Punisher and Elektra it wasn't awful but felt like a downgrade. Season 2 was good.
Jessica Jones season 1 was great and a lot of that was due to Tennant Kilgrave was better than any version of the character I ever read or saw before. Season 2 was okay but was more of a family drama with superpowers and season 3 was better than season 2 but no season 1.
Ironfist well the Meachums were interesting, and Colleen was awesome.
Punisher Season was fantastic season 2 meh.
Defenders again swapping an interesting character Sigourney Weaver for again the less interesting Elektra honestly this would be a character I wouldn't mind a soft reboot on.