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    I'll add Iceman and Frenzy to my list

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    Self-defence.
    Ah ok. So killer but not murderer then ?
    That probably applies to a lot of killer heroes if we want to extend that.

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    I think there are a lot of crossed wires here of people not understanding what I meant. I'll take what I said earlier:

    Not including those who have killed under mind control, killed enemy combatants in a war, killed murderers and or pedophiles, killed accidentally in a manner that wasn't reckless, or were forced to kill under duress.
    And add self-defense, possession, and implanted personalities.

    I wish there were some resource that listed all of the times a character killed, because it becomes confusing when we aren't all understanding the rules.

    But that said, the characters I listed all fit the rubric.

    Including the additions posted above.
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    Can people give examples of said murders?

    When did iceman murder? I remember him freezing a guys hand offs but not murder…

    And was Cristian really self defense? I remember that murder being shady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    Not including those who have killed under mind control, killed enemy combatants in a war, killed murderers and or pedophiles, killed accidentally in a manner that wasn't reckless, or were forced to kill under duress.
    Is it any bigger than the list of murderers allowed in the x-mansion?

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    I'd have to re-read Sina Grace's Iceman for that Christian one and that's not happening.

    Aliens and robots don't count if they're hostile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RamaBird View Post
    Can people give examples of said murders?

    When did iceman murder? I remember him freezing a guys hand offs but not murder…

    And was Cristian really self defense? I remember that murder being shady.
    For Christian, I would have to reread the story but I remember there was a debate here.

    Iceman killed that weird demon mutant lady in the awful nightcrawler origin story. It was to defend his teammates but still he could totally have avoided the killing.

    Storm's killing of Marrow is pretty well documented. Rogue was during Revolution and she killed the Neo GOTH (wow I had to to research that one. Nobody loves the Neo).

    Selene, Daken, Fenris, Wolverine, Shaw, and Sinister are basically serial killers so no need for research. BTW, the whole Marauders old team fits I guess. I don't know if they are back. But Scalphunter is still free.
    Some FLM mutants and Gene Nation killed humans.
    Psylocke is an assassin.
    Magneto killed at least those submarine soldiers in an old issue.

    Actually I said Mystique but do we know of people she actually killed ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    I'd have to re-read Sina Grace's Iceman for that Christian one and that's not happening.

    Aliens and robots don't count if they're hostile.
    The SHADE !

    Robots can be an interesting question. Sentient aliens should totally count though, even if hostile. That begs the question of animal-like aliens like the Brood, actually. Same thing for the Warwolves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    I think there are a lot of crossed wires here of people not understanding what I meant. I'll take what I said earlier:



    And add self-defense, possession, and implanted personalities.

    I wish there were some resource that listed all of the times a character killed, because it becomes confusing when we aren't all understanding the rules.

    But that said, the characters I listed all fit the rubric.

    Including the additions posted above.
    I understood what you meant, I'm just disagreeing with you as for the use of such a limited vision of murder to make an interesting list.

    I would say possession and "implanted personalities" fit in mind control, which I agree should absolve the body that commit the murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master of Sound View Post
    Who did Rogue and Christian kill in cold blood??
    Rogue killed Grim Reaper. but nobody cares about him

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    Who did we KNOW that Mystique, Exodus and Emplate killed ? I thought Emplate kept his food alive ?

    All the Uncanny X-force would probably count too. So Wolverine (obvi), Captain Britain, Deadpool, Warpath, Wolverine 2.0, Wolfsbane, and probably Elixir, I don't remember correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicoclaws View Post
    Who did we KNOW that Mystique, Exodus and Emplate killed ? I thought Emplate kept his food alive ?

    All the Uncanny X-force would probably count too. So Wolverine (obvi), Captain Britain, Deadpool, Warpath, Wolverine 2.0, Wolfsbane, and probably Elixir, I don't remember correctly.
    none of these are an answer to the first post' question.
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    I think it could be interesting to list characters who are allowed to remain in Krakoa unpunished who commited murder after Krakoa because the mutant home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    I think it could be interesting to list characters who are allowed to remain in Krakoa unpunished who commited murder after Krakoa because the mutant home.
    and https://wechoiceblogger.com/15-times...killed-people/

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