Will Smith Slaps Chris Rock On The Oscars Stage

[Malvolio]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/colum...hssrp_catchall

Yeah, not to defend John Wayne here, but the story is getting harder and harder to believe.

[Wildling]

This really get bumped to defend John Wayne?

I saw who bumped it, after over 2 months, just for that, and it was enough for me to continue to remind myself of what actually matters.

[James T. Kirk]

In the Hollywood Reporter article on Sacheen Littlefeather's death, there's a link to an article that examines the claim that John Wayne tried to rush the stage and had to be restrained by six guards. The article concludes that the claim is probably bullshit.

As she was becoming an indelible part of Oscar lore, Wayne “was in the wings, ready to have me taken off stage,” she told the Los Angeles Times in 2016. “He had to be restrained by six security guards.” That may not have been the case, an investigation showed.

[Nate Grey]

What a way to find out Sacheen Littlefeather has passed away. RIP. Maybe now the people who claim her story was bullshit? Will have the balls to ask the people who are still alive and were THERE what happened. But I doubt it.

[frankiedetroit]

What a way to find out Sacheen Littlefeather has passed away. RIP. Maybe now the people who claim her story was bullshit? Will have the balls to ask the people who are still alive and were THERE what happened. But I doubt it.

From the article Kirk shared, it seems like people were asked at the time and stories were dramatized more and more as the years went on. I'd imagine the bit about six security guards restraining John Wayne is hyperbole, but who knows...

[Kirby101]

Here's the thing, Wayne by his own words showed himself to be bigoted toward Native Americans. Whether he rushed the stage or just tried to have her removed, it was none of his damn business how Brando wanted to use his winning speech. It was up to the producers of the ceremony, and they knew she was going on. So Wayne can spin.

[John Venus]

Hmmm, feels like all the talk about Will Smith/Chris Rock has dried out and now it's turned into a discussion about John Wayne and Sacheen Littlefeather (RIP).

If there is no follow up to the Oscar slap worth talking about it's probably best to let this thread sink and if you're discussing a different topic entirely, create a new thread for it, but don't spam, not every little thought needs a separate thread.

[krazijoe]

Hmmm, feels like all the talk about Will Smith/Chris Rock has dried out and now it's turned into a discussion about John Wayne and Sacheen Littlefeather (RIP).

If there is no follow up to the Oscar slap worth talking about it's probably best to let this thread sink and if you're discussing a different topic entirely, create a new thread for it, but don't spam, not every little thought needs a separate thread.

Well, there is a new Will Smith movie coming out soon, it's called Emancipation, which is a little ironic...
https://deadline.com/2022/10/will-sm...ew-1235133557/

[Mister Mets]

Well, there is a new Will Smith movie coming out soon, it's called Emancipation, which is a little ironic...
https://deadline.com/2022/10/will-sm...ew-1235133557/

Some Oscar voters are saying they'd refuse to vote for Smith, which probably does not help the sense of the artistic integrity of the awards.

https://www.avclub.com/will-smith-ac...ion-1849616108

[Frobisher]

The only way to fix this is clearly a rematch between the two in a mud-wrestling bath live on Oscars Night.

[Mister Mets]

This really get bumped to defend John Wayne?

If something is falsely reported, it should be corrected. No?

[Kirby101]

Some Oscar voters are saying they'd refuse to vote for Smith, which probably does not help the sense of the artistic integrity of the awards.

https://www.avclub.com/will-smith-ac...ion-1849616108

Why? He should be banned from nominations, not just the ceremony. The voters are only doing what the Academy didn't have the guts to do.

[Mister Mets]

Why? He should be banned from nominations, not just the ceremony. The voters are only doing what the Academy didn't have the guts to do.

The point of the nominations and awards is to honor the best performances. Will Smith slapping Chris Rock has nothing to do with the quality of his work so it should be irrelevant for whether he's nominated.

Doing otherwise opens up all sorts of arguments about other decisions the Academy could do if they openly admit that quality isn't the only factor. Obviously, many voters do that already, but this would make it mandatory.

[thwhtGuardian]

The point of the nominations and awards is to honor the best performances. Will Smith slapping Chris Rock has nothing to do with the quality of his work so it should be irrelevant for whether he's nominated.

Doing otherwise opens up all sorts of arguments about other decisions the Academy could do if they openly admit that quality isn't the only factor. Obviously, many voters do that already, but this would make it mandatory.

If one does something heinous then they shouldn't be eligible for an award...I don't understand what's complicated about that.

[Kirby101]

The point of the nominations and awards is to honor the best performances. Will Smith slapping Chris Rock has nothing to do with the quality of his work so it should be irrelevant for whether he's nominated.

Doing otherwise opens up all sorts of arguments about other decisions the Academy could do if they openly admit that quality isn't the only factor. Obviously, many voters do that already, but this would make it mandatory.

Don't slippery slope BS us. He did something AT THE ACADEMY AWARDS. And they have every right to ban him from being nominated. And some voters choosing to refuse to consider him because of his inexcusable actions are doing the right thing.