Will Smith Slaps Chris Rock On The Oscars Stage

[Kirby101]

If one does something heinous then they shouldn't be eligible for an award...I don't understand what's complicated about that.

Mets wants to make this a "Cancel Culture" thing. And is acting as if the Academy Awards is some bastion of perfect aesthetic art.

[Immortal Weapon]

If one does something heinous then they shouldn't be eligible for an award...I don't understand what's complicated about that.

The heinous action has nothing to do with the art. There are people who can separate art from artist.

[WebLurker]

Some Oscar voters are saying they'd refuse to vote for Smith, which probably does not help the sense of the artistic integrity of the awards.

https://www.avclub.com/will-smith-ac...ion-1849616108

There never was any to begin with.

[Mister Mets]

The heinous action has nothing to do with the art. There are people who can separate art from artist.

Exactly.

Mets wants to make this a "Cancel Culture" thing. And is acting as if the Academy Awards is some bastion of perfect aesthetic art.

This is not a cancel culture thing.

First, Will Smith is not penalized for his views. He assaulted someone in front of a lot of witnesses. It has nothing to do with either's religion or political views.

Second, I completely agree with the Oscars. It makes sense to ban Will Smith for a few years after he attacked an announcer. He's also eligible for prizes. People in Hollywood are free to make the decisions to hire him or not, and it makes sense why many don't want someone who assaulted a famous person with a lot of friends at an industry event in their project.

Finally, I'm not pretending that it's a bastion of perfect aesthetic art. I suggested otherwise in the post you're responding to. But the announcement that someone would be ineligible because of reasons that have nothing to do with the art means that no one is able to go for that ideal.

If one does something heinous then they shouldn't be eligible for an award...I don't understand what's complicated about that.

It depends on the award.

Some awards are based on a combination of performance and morals.

That's not really the case with the competitive Oscars.

There has been no announcement that Will Smith should be ineligible for future acting awards because of his actions. Any policy should be argued in advance, and should be made explicit. It should be clear that the best actor award isn't really for the best lead male performance but that it's limited to people who the Academy does not consider to be heinous.

[thwhtGuardian]

So let's say you're a salesmen, your metrics are all the highest in the company (highest number of contracts, best close percentage and largest dollar amount) but you also slapped another employee in the face at work...you think you still deserve salesman of the year?

You don't reward bad behavior.

[hyped78]

I think the joke was in poor taste, but many jokes are in poor taste and that doesn't mean the comedian should get slapped over it. It's sad that Chris Rock had to make a joke about female alopecia but Will Smith was completely out of line in doing what he did and he should bear responsibility for it.

[Immortal Weapon]

So let's say you're a salesmen, your metrics are all the highest in the company (highest number of contracts, best close percentage and largest dollar amount) but you also slapped another employee in the face at work...you think you still deserve salesman of the year?

You don't reward bad behavior.

The company will try to smooth things over and sweep the incident under the rug. If that salesman is the company's best earner he will be protected. At best he'll get a slap on the wrist punishment to show the company did something.

[hyped78]

The company will try to smooth things over and sweep the incident under the rug. If that salesman is the company's best earner he will be protected. At best he'll get a slap on the wrist punishment to show the company did something.

I disagree. I think it depends on the company and company culture. In most companies I've worked for, that person would eventually be disciplined or fired.

[thwhtGuardian]

The company will try to smooth things over and sweep the incident under the rug. If that salesman is the company's best earner he will be protected. At best he'll get a slap on the wrist punishment to show the company did something.

That's a pretty shitty company and is probably losing clients and employees.

[Kirby101]

Second, I completely agree with the Oscars. It makes sense to ban Will Smith for a few years after he attacked an announcer. He's also eligible for prizes. People in Hollywood are free to make the decisions to hire him or not, and it makes sense why many don't want someone who assaulted a famous person with a lot of friends at an industry event in their project.

So it's only because you agree with the Academy, what would your reaction be if they banned him from getting any awards for a number of years, which many in the Academy pushed for, and which these voters still hold. And really Mets, "lots of fireinds"?, it couldn't possibly be that they think what he did was offensive enough not to want to work with him. Why do you attribute the most noble motives to the Academy and the most petty to those that don't think he should be considered for an award?

[wleakr]

If the Academy really had any integrity they would've prevented Smith from getting an award THAT night right after the action. Or at the very least, had him removed from the event.

Anything they do (or don't) is just a dog and pony show.

The "heinous" act is actually keeping them in the publicity spotlight. I never even cared about the Oscars until this.

[ed2962]

The 2023 Ocsars will have a "Crisis Team" in place following the controversial Will Smith slap of last year

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...D=ansmsnnews11

[j9ac9k]

First, Will Smith is not penalized for his views. He assaulted someone in front of a lot of witnesses. It has nothing to do with either's religion or political views.

And of course he did at the Oscars. If he had done it anywhere else, the Academy wouldn't have to deal with it.

[Godzilla2099]

The 2023 Ocsars will have a "Crisis Team" in place following the controversial Will Smith slap of last year

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...D=ansmsnnews11

Talk about turning a mound into a mountain. Didn't they try to throw Will and his family out but Will said no? I mean, what can a 'crisis' team do?

I could care less if its a celebrity, there should repercussions for behavior like that. Kanye West and Will Smith? Just ban them. If they win something, then mail the awards to them. Simple as that. Why make things so unnecessarily complicated?

[Fridays]

The 2023 Ocsars will have a "Crisis Team" in place following the controversial Will Smith slap of last year

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...D=ansmsnnews11

Oscars should take cues from the BAFTAS and other UK Award shows. . Don't air the awards actual life in real time. Give yourself at least a 10-20 minutes head start. the audience should be watching the awards at least 20 minutes after it started.

Will Smith messed up, however I hope this is not the end of his career. I hope he makes a come back.