Status Quos that need to die.

[Sutekh]

Hmm, yeah, those are good points there. It's one thing to have a wide range of knowledge or learning --- the definition of a polymath in real life --- but being on that super-genius-level in everything scientific really does stretch if not break the bounds of suspension of disbelief.

It's irksome in that Marvel went and made a super-polymath in Finesse, of the Avengers Academy, whose actual power was originally to be a multidisciplinary prodigy, able to master chemistry and gymnastics and 'learn a few languages' in her spare time, and then, because every freaking smart guy at Marvel *already had that power,* she got retconned into being Taskmaster Lite, with photographic reflexes, and her being a genius at a bunch of other things, including music and math and languages, mysteriously got abandoned for more fighty-fight nonsense, as if Marvel needed yet more punchy-folk.

[JudicatorPrime]

I think that's because Marvel is scared that they'd end up getting American Christians mad at them by having explicitly angelic beings or beings otherwise associated with angels or Heaven fighting as or alongside superheroes.

Those same Christians would be equally upset with Son of Satan, Ghost Rider, Mephistopheles and several "real-world" demons (i.e., according to their belief system) that have representations in the Marvel Universe. And don't get me started on the gods who are perceived as pagans by monotheistic faiths, (even though Psalm 82 clearly states that there are other "gods" according to the Christian text). Marvel has even brought us a somewhat Gnostic interpretation of the Demiurge. Ironically, despite all of the supernatural entities running around the MU, it's been mostly a limited fictional universe. I'm just calling for equal time for angels. It doesn't even have to be one narrowly defined by Judeo-Christian precepts, as clearly TOAA exists in the MU, but he isn't necessarily awash in biblical context and color.

[mung]

Billy and Teddy being glued at the hip. There are plenty of couples that don't always get written together but these two are apparently a package deal. Billy did get some time alone in Strikeforce.

Black Bolt being just the scream guy. He has so much cool stuff he can do. It really messes with his characterization of being conditioned not to speak when it becomes his main form of offense.

[Huntsman Spider]

It's irksome in that Marvel went and made a super-polymath in Finesse, of the Avengers Academy, whose actual power was originally to be a multidisciplinary prodigy, able to master chemistry and gymnastics and 'learn a few languages' in her spare time, and then, because every freaking smart guy at Marvel *already had that power,* she got retconned into being Taskmaster Lite, with photographic reflexes, and her being a genius at a bunch of other things, including music and math and languages, mysteriously got abandoned for more fighty-fight nonsense, as if Marvel needed yet more punchy-folk.

Yeah, that is a real shame.

Those same Christians would be equally upset with Son of Satan, Ghost Rider, Mephistopheles and several "real-world" demons (i.e., according to their belief system) that have representations in the Marvel Universe. And don't get me started on the gods who are perceived as pagans by monotheistic faiths, (even though Psalm 82 clearly states that there are other "gods" according to the Christian text). Marvel has even brought us a somewhat Gnostic interpretation of the Demiurge. Ironically, despite all of the supernatural entities running around the MU, it's been mostly a limited fictional universe. I'm just calling for equal time for angels. It doesn't even have to be one narrowly defined by Judeo-Christian precepts, as clearly TOAA exists in the MU, but he isn't necessarily awash in biblical context and color.

Fair and good points there.

[marhawkman]

It's irksome in that Marvel went and made a super-polymath in Finesse, of the Avengers Academy, whose actual power was originally to be a multidisciplinary prodigy, able to master chemistry and gymnastics and 'learn a few languages' in her spare time, and then, because every freaking smart guy at Marvel *already had that power,* she got retconned into being Taskmaster Lite, with photographic reflexes, and her being a genius at a bunch of other things, including music and math and languages, mysteriously got abandoned for more fighty-fight nonsense, as if Marvel needed yet more punchy-folk.

Oh and how Xavier can canonically photocopy whatever Reed knows about a topic and use that knowledge himself. Well, a lot of telepaths can do that actually.

TBH, Taskmaster-lite, who's also a super-genius sounds great as a character.

[PCN24454]

Oh and how Xavier can canonically photocopy whatever Reed knows about a topic and use that knowledge himself. Well, a lot of telepaths can do that actually.

TBH, Taskmaster-lite, who's also a super-genius sounds great as a character.

I think you mean “great as a plot device” cause that’s the only way they’ll be used.

[Huntsman Spider]

Oh and how Xavier can canonically photocopy whatever Reed knows about a topic and use that knowledge himself. Well, a lot of telepaths can do that actually.

TBH, Taskmaster-lite, who's also a super-genius sounds great as a character.

That's also Prodigy's superpower. He can copy the skills and knowledge of anyone in a certain radius, but the original drawback is that he doesn't retain that knowledge or those skills once the person he's drawn them from is outside that radius, so he has to study extra-hard in school to have any knowledge rooted in what he himself knows and recalls. Then he got depowered after House of M/Decimation, and as compensation, he got the mental block that kept him from recalling all the knowledge he accumulated from others removed, which also came in handy when he finally got repowered, however that happened.

I think you mean “great as a plot device” cause that’s the only way they’ll be used.

Sadly, because it could yield some great dramatic potential, insofar as how alienated someone like that might feel from everyone else around them, and how much ennui might set in after a while.

[Anthony W]

The idea that Marvel needs to keep putting out so many titles when they clearly don't have the talent to sustain them all. Marvel's superhero line should only be twenty to thirty books.

Two X-Books (Yes, you're just getting two)
Two Avengers
Two Spider-Man titles
A Miles Morales title
Doctor Strange
Thor
Nova (Rich Rider)
Guardians Of The Galaxy
Black Panther
Captain Marvel
Champions (This is where Kamala and Sam are)
Daredevil
Iron Man
Captain America
Fantastic Four
Inhumans
Power Man and Iron Fist
Moon Knight
Blade
Wolverine (Logan...duh)
S.H.I.E.L.D (I can't stand Nick Fury Jr, but it's time for the spurs to return
Silver Surfer (Most of the time he doesn't make this list but Ron Marz and Ron Lim restored my faith in the character)
Hulk
The Union
The rest of slots will just be mini series

[Chris0013]

The idea that Marvel needs to keep putting out so many titles when they clearly don't have the talent to sustain them all. Marvel's superhero line should only be twenty to thirty books.

Two X-Books (Yes, you're just getting two)
Two Avengers
Two Spider-Man titles
A Miles Morales title
Doctor Strange
Thor
Nova (Rich Rider)
Guardians Of The Galaxy
Black Panther
Captain Marvel
Champions (This is where Kamala and Sam are)
Daredevil
Iron Man
Captain America
Fantastic Four
Inhumans
Power Man and Iron Fist
Moon Knight
Blade
Wolverine (Logan...duh)
S.H.I.E.L.D (I can't stand Nick Fury Jr, but it's time for the spurs to return
Silver Surfer (Most of the time he doesn't make this list but Ron Marz and Ron Lim restored my faith in the character)
Hulk
The Union
The rest of slots will just be mini series

I would tweak that....

4 Avengers with no cast duplications. East, West, Young, Secret
4 X-Men with no cast duplication. NYC team, San Fran team, Westchester School and X-Force
1 Spider-Man

X-Men and Avengers have enough characters to support this format

[Anthony W]

I would tweak that....

You only get two teams, nah just kidding lol.

4 Avengers with no cast duplications. East, West, Young, Secret
4 X-Men with no cast duplication. NYC team, San Fran team, Westchester School and X-Force
1 Spider-Man

X-Men and Avengers have enough characters to support this format

That's the issue with current Marvel, doing things because they can without thinking if they should. Two teams is enough IMHO.

[Sutekh]

Oh and how Xavier can canonically photocopy whatever Reed knows about a topic and use that knowledge himself. Well, a lot of telepaths can do that actually.

TBH, Taskmaster-lite, who's also a super-genius sounds great as a character.

I would love her to be more like that old TV character 'the Pretender,' who was a polymath who could basically master a particular skillset in hours, to carry out some sort of impersonation or needed role, even if it was a super-complex thing like surgeon or physicist. That would be much cooler than just 'copies Wolverine's leapy-stabby pose, and Cap's shield-toss' nonsense.

'Cause a super-hero whose power is to be almost as good at various fight-y moves as other super-heroes whose signature moves they are? Boring. I for one have zero interest in the amazing derivative adventures of Second-Rate Copycat Lass.

[PCN24454]

I would tweak that....

4 Avengers with no cast duplications. East, West, Young, Secret
4 X-Men with no cast duplication. NYC team, San Fran team, Westchester School and X-Force
1 Spider-Man

X-Men and Avengers have enough characters to support this format

You’re right. Miles Morales and Peter should share a book. The idea that they can’t work together is dumb.

[Chris0013]

You’re right. Miles Morales and Peter should share a book. The idea that they can’t work together is dumb.

No....One Spider-Man book....one Miles Morales book.

Anthony W had this...
Two Spider-Man titles
A Miles Morales title

[PCN24454]

No....One Spider-Man book....one Miles Morales book.

Anthony W had this...
Two Spider-Man titles
A Miles Morales title

Yet another status quo that needs to die. Spider-Man being a loner.

[Chris0013]

Yet another status quo that needs to die. Spider-Man being a loner.

I am not against him being shown with his friends from time to time or being in a team book. In fact I want to see that happen.