Status Quos that need to die.

[Agent Z]

Begs the question, did Bill Foster or his family ever get justice?

I think the closest they got was when Foster's nephew watched the Hulk beat uo the Illuminati.

[Lukmendes]

How does aunt may feel about spider man these days?

She seems to be fine with him.

Nah, Reed had just spent an entire year trying to figure out how to tell EVERY superhero in the world how to be better heroes... even the ones who DON'T do it wrong. To be fair, Avengers Initiative would have been a good idea if not mandatory.... except it is. Cloud 9 who played along with it, hated it so much that when she was told she didn't have to do it any more.. by Captain America, in public.... she.. handed him her Avengers ID card, then took off her cloud-9 costume and left it with Captain America. Yeah she hated the Initiative so much... that she went home in her underwear.

And Marvel tried to say that pro-registration was right lol.

What I personally saw as poorly thought out is actually that Goliath looks like he's wrapped in a giant garbage bag. If it was a coffin the scene would feel a lot better.

It looks like a straightjacket to me, which, doesn't make it better lol.

Logan did kill Sabretooth, it just didn't stick.

Wasn't there something about Wolverine killing Sabretooth, and then someone went to hell and killed him again there, only for it to turn out that the sabretooth killed was some random clone?

[Baron of Faltine]

Isn’t that just reinforcing the issue? It may not have been a “fight”, but it was still combat. Anyone who can’t do that is still seen as weak.

I do not think so. Strength does ot have either come out just by physical power, that is the main issue. Generally in the story the writer had a base idea of how the hero can get out of the fray, how things will play out, remember in a story everything exist because the author say so, there is no random events.
Also a lot of misconceptions come from the idea that heroes fight to win the fight. Wrong.
Heores fight for many reasons but main kne is to save as many lives and help as many people as possible. If getting hit by a truck time and time again ensure that truck won 't hit anyone else, well for an hero is a victory.

[Sutekh]

A status quo in comics I want to die;

The home city/land of the hero gets blown to hell to showcase the new Big Bad We've Never Heard of But is Worse Than Last Week's Big Bad.

Attilan, Gotham, Atlantis, Wakanda, Asgard, Utopia, Hell's Kitchen, wherever it is, it will get blown up at least once a year, making the hero that is supposed to be it's protector or even king look shockingly incompetent. Sure, any single writer will generally only blow it up once to highlight how their Big Bad is Bigger and Badder than the last writer's Big Bad, but since the last writer did the same damn thing, and next years writer is going to do it all over again, it just sucks to live anywhere Thor, Black Panther, Batman, Black Bolt, Daredevil, Namor, Aquaman, etc. are 'protecting'. (Same applies, to lesser effect, to companies run by superheroes. Stark Industries has changed CEOs and suffered hostile takeovers and bankruptcies more than any six other companies combined! Working there must be a nightmare. Is the CEO Stark? Stane? Hammer? Covington?)

[JudicatorPrime]

Logan did kill Sabretooth, it just didn't stick.

I gather they'd resurrect a villain like Sabretooth. But does Wolverine go after and kill him every time Sabretooth shows his ugly mug?

[JudicatorPrime]

A status quo in comics I want to die;

The home city/land of the hero gets blown to hell to showcase the new Big Bad We've Never Heard of But is Worse Than Last Week's Big Bad.

It truly does start to sound like that line from the Architect in the Matrix movies:

"Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed [Zion], and we have become exceedingly efficient at it."

There's no way anyone living on Marvel Earth would be able to afford property insurance of any kind. And I don't even want to think of what the going rate would be in a place like Asgard, where the Ragnarokian progression all but assures that it will be repeatedly destroyed in some fashion or another until the end of time.

[marhawkman]

And Marvel tried to say that pro-registration was right lol.

Well using real-world logic...

Secret identities are a bad thing. Organizations like SHIELD would probably have most of the world's superheroes working for them. Recruitment programs like Avengers Initiative would be akin to police academy.

That's sensible and reasonable.

The problem with Civil War is that they HAD to make the pro side do something stupid and unethical or there'd be no event. Namely the idea that all supers HAVE TO becomes heroes or go to jail. I'm gonna use Abigail Boylen as an example again because that's seemingly the reason they created her. She was a teen who.. well no one really knows WHY she has powers. We know she wasn't born with them but... where did they come from? anyways, she had no desire to be a hero OR villain. then got drafted by the Initiative.

As Captain America pointed out... legally they had no reason to care about her beyond putting her in a list of known supers.

[Lukmendes]

Well using real-world logic...

Secret identities are a bad thing. Organizations like SHIELD would probably have most of the world's superheroes working for them. Recruitment programs like Avengers Initiative would be akin to police academy.

That's sensible and reasonable.

The problem with Civil War is that they HAD to make the pro side do something stupid and unethical or there'd be no event. Namely the idea that all supers HAVE TO becomes heroes or go to jail. I'm gonna use Abigail Boylen as an example again because that's seemingly the reason they created her. She was a teen who.. well no one really knows WHY she has powers. We know she wasn't born with them but... where did they come from? anyways, she had no desire to be a hero OR villain. then got drafted by the Initiative.

As Captain America pointed out... legally they had no reason to care about her beyond putting her in a list of known supers.

Civil War made pro registration into the bad guys by having them imprisoning people before the law is even passed, and trying to force anyone with a hint of a super power to be forced to become soldiers, so yeah.

In real life things would work out differently, but this is the same world where police is so incompetent they can't deal with a fat guy with metal tentacle arms, so yeah, everything else sucks so badly that super-heroes are a need, it's a dystopian nightmare really lol.

[Huntsman Spider]

I prefer that they got rid of that because I want Peter to tell her himself.

Fair enough. He should finally tell her.

[Baron of Faltine]

Civil War made pro registration into the bad guys by having them imprisoning people before the law is even passed, and trying to force anyone with a hint of a super power to be forced to become soldiers, so yeah.

In real life things would work out differently, but this is the same world where police is so incompetent they can't deal with a fat guy with metal tentacle arms, so yeah, everything else sucks so badly that super-heroes are a need, it's a dystopian nightmare really lol.

Still better than Gotham city police, at least doc ock arms are veritable menace at time(once he hold his own against freaking Hulk).

Still thisbgive me the hint to point out the most obvious tropes that have quite become excessively used to point of ridiculous.
A) cop are useless. Now if the menace is reasonable out of context that police normally deal with it is one thing, but at times you wonder exactly if the police department in superhero universe recruits from the clown school
B) Science is evil! Wtf almost all science guys and gals of superhero universe range from veeeery morally questionable(in case of heroes btw) to absolute sadistic psychology maniac! As the looked me funny I will kill everyone in town maniac! Does science turn you insane?

[Sutekh]

B) Science is evil! Wtf almost all science guys and gals of superhero universe range from veeeery morally questionable(in case of heroes btw) to absolute sadistic psychology maniac! As the looked me funny I will kill everyone in town maniac! Does science turn you insane?

Smart people are bad. Just the sheer amount of heroes with powers up against 'smart dude who made a device he could have patented for millions, but instead robs banks with it?' It happens at both companies. Heroes may indeed be smart, Spider-Man and Flash are two very smart dudes, but their rogues galleries are loaded with dudes who built cool toys, like Captain Cold, Doc Octopus, the Vulture, Green Goblin, Weather Wizard, etc.

Even the gadget-inventor heroes, like Stark and Pym, tend to be seen as sketchy or amoral on unbalanced, at various times.

Meanwhile, there are thirty-thousand heroes with super-strength, and the number of heroes who explicitly have superhuman intelligence, as an actual super-power, are... Brainiac 5? Lunella/Moon Girl? Superhumanly smart people usually seem to end up on the other side, like Mad Thinker or the Leader or the original Brainiac, as if being strong enough to bench-press planets, that was good, wholesome hero-fare, but being *smarter* than normal, well, that's the express train to villain-town!

And then there's superhuman charisma or pheremone powers. That never seems to go with 'nice well-adjusted person who would never abuse those abilities.'

'Cause the only thing worse than those darn dirty scientists, who think they're so much smarter than us simple comic-book writin' folk, is *popular people!*

[Alan2099]

Miles Morales needs his own identity. We already have a perfectly good Spider-man. Let him having an identity that's uniquely his and make his stop sponging off Parker for recognition, supporting cast, and villains.

[Anthony W]

New York being the center of the Marvel Universe.

[Tony Stark]

New York being the center of the Marvel Universe.

Yes. Very much so.

[MichaelC]

New York being the center of the Marvel Universe.

So agreed! New York is one city of 10 million in a nation of over 300 million and a world of nearly 8 billion.