Discovery Wants To Revitalize Superman

[JAK]

Probably time to start handing out lubricant. Because yeah, we're likely well and proper f*cked.

The more DC/WB leans on the Bat, the more they abuse/neglect/mismanage everyone else, the worse the situation will become for them. And what baffles me is that this is some basic bitch business 101 sh*t. Idiot freshmen in college with no real world experience recognize this. Why the ever loving hel do these high-priced executives not recognize what they're doing to themselves and the company?

In the direct market, decades of this crap has now resulted in high profile characters, staples of the industry recognized around the globe, struggling to carry books. In larger media it's resulted in reduced profiles, reduced brand loyalty, and reduced brand trust, all of which means less money in WB's pocket. It's not hard to recognize the difference between matching consumer demand with your most profitable products, and cutting the legs out from everything else in the pursuit of hyping up that most profitable product.

Eh, if DC movies keep going the way they're going, great; that means more money stays in my pocket.

Agreed. I mean, I could say the reason why is the same reason why 80% of our elected officials make stupid decisions on healthcare and the like. Same "lack of logic" energy in both, imo.

I can almost see the logic from someone who wants to go as cheap a route as possible:

*Timeline already exists and money was spent on it
*Actors are more or less in place (hopefully)
*Resetting would take a lot longer, be more expensive possibly, and still no guarantee

But here's the thing that, if this is indeed what they're going for, that is the lynchpin of everything:

*We can take this and make it better.

THAT is the trap that it seems like so many of these corporate types fall into. But if he can't? He's just a cheaper version of all the suits that came before.

Honestly, I'm almost more pissed about losing so much Keaton Batman than I am anything, at this point. I was really looking forward to that.

[Ascended]

Agreed. I mean, I could say the reason why is the same reason why 80% of our elected officials make stupid decisions on healthcare and the like. Same "lack of logic" energy in both, imo.

I'm actually glad Keaton might be out. Remember when they brought Kal-L back for Infinite Crisis? Yeah, some things you leave alone and don't F with, no matter how amazing they were. You don't *because* they were so good. I kinda wanted to see it, but.....it's a modern day DCEU movie, what're the odds of it actually being good? It's possible, but would you put money on it?

And, y'know, we're just armchair quarterbacking. We don't have to worry about shareholders calling us all hours of the day, worried about the debt they're under and asking when the returns will start coming in. We don't have tons of asskissers telling us our worst ideas are great, or office rivals looking to pounce if we can't get the income statement where the board wants it. We don't have to worry about how big our quarterly bonus will be and whether we can afford that new island we've had our eye on.

The fact that we're likely still right? Pisses me off, really, but who knows what, if any, truth there is to any of these rumors. I expect to watch things continue to disintegrate because WB won't put the real work in and are too worried about short-term gains to achieve long term success. If we're right we get "I knew it'd suck" bragging rights. If we're wrong, then we all win.

[JAK]

I'm actually glad Keaton might be out. Remember when they brought Kal-L back for Infinite Crisis? Yeah, some things you leave alone and don't F with, no matter how amazing they were. You don't *because* they were so good. I kinda wanted to see it, but.....it's a modern day DCEU movie, what're the odds of it actually being good? It's possible, but would you put money on it?

True. I've just had the idea in my head since I saw him in Spider-Man: Homecoming and just wanted to see it. But you're probably right, I trust most of those people as far as I can throw them, lol

And, y'know, we're just armchair quarterbacking. We don't have to worry about shareholders calling us all hours of the day, worried about the debt they're under and asking when the returns will start coming in. We don't have tons of asskissers telling us our worst ideas are great, or office rivals looking to pounce if we can't get the income statement where the board wants it. We don't have to worry about how big our quarterly bonus will be and whether we can afford that new island we've had our eye on.

LOL - also true. Though as you say, we're probably still right.

The fact that we're likely still right? Pisses me off, really, but who knows what, if any, truth there is to any of these rumors. I expect to watch things continue to disintegrate because WB won't put the real work in and are too worried about short-term gains to achieve long term success. If we're right we get "I knew it'd suck" bragging rights. If we're wrong, then we all win.

Yep. It's like watching the Titanic where they say "no, steer *into* the iceberg" and we're all just watching from the floating door. lol You're also right that I'd love to be wrong on all this. "Never felt so wrong to be right" sounds like a country song title, lol

[Vordan]

Sounds like all is not ok in Flashland

If they cancel Flash I wonder what the hell are they going to do? Might as well just do a hard reboot and stop dragging things out.

[Ascended]

I'd argue that a hard reboot is exactly what they should do, and I don't know why anyone would want to retain any connections or elements to a bunch of movies that largely failed across the board. Nearly every DCEU film has underperformed and/or disappointed fans and WB stockholders alike; outside of wrapping up Mamoa, Gadot, and Levi's trilogies, what the hel is worth keeping?

Oh, Peacemaker. That's worth a second season.

[JAK]

I'd argue that a hard reboot is exactly what they should do, and I don't know why anyone would want to retain any connections or elements to a bunch of movies that largely failed across the board. Nearly every DCEU film has underperformed and/or disappointed fans and WB stockholders alike; outside of wrapping up Mamoa, Gadot, and Levi's trilogies, what the hel is worth keeping?

Oh, Peacemaker. That's worth a second season.

Peacemaker is definitely worth keeping! Heck, they could always have some mission they go on in another dimension, and come out the end into the rebooted universe and wonder what happened. Might even be comedy gold, if they play it right.

[Jeffrey2]

THR is reporting WBD is considering 3 options:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/vi...rows-thr-news/

WBD has put 200 million plus into the film. They love the Supergirl/Zod fight sequence, they love Calle as Supergirl and also the work of Affleck, Shannon and Keaton. Affleck has a supposedly great motorcycle chase scene. WBD wants those shots to be seen. Given that, I doubt they cancel the Flash. But if they did, a reboot is not needed. Aquaman, WW and Shazam are highly successful franchises with popular lead actors and any reboot could be built around them.

[DochaDocha]

The DCEU has been fantastic for those who want to watch the world burn.

Oh so fantastic...

[Jeffrey2]

Joker 2 gets big cash infusion. Lady Gaga getting 10 million for Joker 2 - a bit pricey? Batgirl still has a future in the DCEU it seems. The Batman 2 sequel not yet greenlit. Lots of turmoil at the studio.


https://pursuenews.com/dc-films-week...ut-rumor-mill/

[Vordan]

The moves underscore what a financial mess Warner Bros. Discovery is as the studio has only enough cash to release 2 movies from now to the end of this year (Don't Worry Darling and Black Adam).

https://twitter.com/borys_kit/status...dgxq4h8k4ChENw

Man I don’t know what they’re going to do if Black Adam flops. Lot riding on that movie seemingly.

[Jeffrey2]

Aquaman 2 is rumored to not be that good. It needs fixing and part of that is bringing in Batfleck to help boost the film. In a similar fashion Flash's 3rd act is being reshot to fix problems and continuity issues around Batfleck. Zaslav has said WBD won't release poor quality films and is apparently not going to be tied to a quota of films the studio "must" release every quarter. BA does not have the buzz it should so that has to be a worry for WBD. Hence the rumors now that Superman and maybe even Cavill will appear in a post credit scene. The studio is hyping rumors about the cameo to counter what may be a lack of interest in the film. Johnson's "team" films like Fast and Furious have done very well but his solo outings not as much. The Rock is on the hot seat as his grand plans to co-opt the DCEU could crash and burn if BA does just so- so.

Zaslav told investors of plans for DC IPs and specifically WW, Batman, Aquaman and Superman. He has to show movement on that front at Fandome (if they have it) or another event. WBD has to name a head of DC Studios. Some reports suggest they will do that when Hamada leaves, presumably, in October. That "big" event needs big announcements. A Batfleck solo, WW getting a release date and more.

[Jeffrey2]

DC Comics - the next Zaslav target? Check out Cosmic Book News


https://****************/david-zasla...ilures-exposed

As I have been reporting on for years, DC Comics has been in dire straits due to its SJW and woke agenda where the company doesn’t care about the fans, doesn’t care about the characters, doesn’t care about quality content, and doesn’t care about making money (much like Marvel Comics).

Well, with the new merger it’s all coming to a head for Jim Lee and Marie Javins as it is reported the accounting offices of Warner Bros. Discovery have been taking a hard look at the books of DC Comics, where things are so bad that only Batman sells, as last month saw over half of the comics published not making the Top 100 list of sales.


More:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQmjdToRNuI

[Myskin]

DC Comics - the next Zaslav target? Check out Cosmic Book News


https://****************/david-zasla...ilures-exposed

As I have been reporting on for years, DC Comics has been in dire straits due to its SJW and woke agenda where the company doesn’t care about the fans, doesn’t care about the characters, doesn’t care about quality content, and doesn’t care about making money (much like Marvel Comics).

Well, with the new merger it’s all coming to a head for Jim Lee and Marie Javins as it is reported the accounting offices of Warner Bros. Discovery have been taking a hard look at the books of DC Comics, where things are so bad that only Batman sells, as last month saw over half of the comics published not making the Top 100 list of sales.


More:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQmjdToRNuI

That site is one of the most unprofessional sites in the history of unreliable sources.

[Jeffrey2]

Mamoa on Affleck. It looks like he and Ben have surprises in store for the audience. Could Batfleck's role be increasing? This in the context of the pushback on the release date. John Campea said the decision to delay the release was made weeks ago. Timed with the Batfleck news and word that the film is not that good - as in it needs fixing, it adds up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-aiKxYsqYI

[Vordan]

DC’s Kevin Feige Found: Producer Dan Lin in Talks to Take Control of Film, TV for Superhero Arm
The move, which will see DC Films president Walter Hamada exit, comes as new Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav seeks a "reset" for the brand.