View Poll Results: What should WB do about Ezra Miller?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InfamousBG View Post
    I love Keaton. I also love the Flash so I was really looking forward to this movie. Now, not so much.

    I am more excited for Keaton in the Batgirl movie and see how this all plays out.
    I'm still looking forward to it and I honestly was a fan of Miller, but it'll definitely feel creepy watching them after this. At the same time, I still love Seven and LA Confidential despite how gross of a person Kevin Spacey is in real life. I also feel bad for Sasha Calle who seemed so sweet and excited to be cast. This is her big break and it's getting messed up because the star is a lunatic.

    I think WB basically has no choice but to admit there's a problem, but are going to release the movie anyway to celebrate the hard work of all the other people that made it and that Ezra won't be the Flash in the future. It sucks, but there's no good option here. I like the idea of reshooting the ending where Barry comes back to the new timeline, removes his mask and its a new actor. It's a nice show of good faith on WBs part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post
    WB getting called out to say anything about this. The story has now made nbc news.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/17/ezra...ng-claims.html
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    There’s also the problem that they just did an internal investigation into all things DCEU over Fisher’s allegations and somehow managed to miss all of this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinsir View Post
    How do you they aren't just tired?
    In light of everything else? Very unlikely.


    Quote Originally Posted by king of hybrids View Post
    There’s also the problem that they just did an internal investigation into all things DCEU over Fisher’s allegations and somehow managed to miss all of this
    Miller might have been on good behavior on the set.

    Sometimes creeps like this are just good at putting on a mask, like Grant Morrison said they didn't pick up on this potential behavior at all when they interacted with Miller. And it seems like Miller's main targets might he kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king of hybrids View Post
    There’s also the problem that they just did an internal investigation into all things DCEU over Fisher’s allegations and somehow managed to miss all of this
    If they were focused on his behavior on set, and he didn't act like a douche, no reason why it would show up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Refrax5 View Post
    I also feel bad for Sasha Calle who seemed so sweet and excited to be cast. This is her big break and it's getting messed up because the star is a lunatic.
    Hopefully her solo movie does well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    In light of everything else? Very unlikely.




    Miller might have been on good behavior on the set.

    Sometimes creeps like this are just good at putting on a mask, like Grant Morrison said they didn't pick up on this potential behavior at all when they interacted with Miller. And it seems like Miller's main targets might he kids.
    The weird thing is that they don't seem good at putting on a mask at all. They've been very openly and publicly doing really insane stuff and this stuff all seemed to happen right in front of other people. That's what's so bizarre about it to me. It seems like usually predators are more calculated and can keep a lid on their bad behavior in public. Miller seems to be brazen and just openly destroying their own life and career. I feel like there's got to be more to it, since they seem to be completely delusional and out of control on top of the predatory behavior.

    It's all just so awful and strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Refrax5 View Post
    The weird thing is that they don't seem good at putting on a mask at all. They've been very openly and publicly doing really insane stuff and this stuff all seemed to happen right in front of other people. That's what's so bizarre about it to me. It seems like usually predators are more calculated and can keep a lid on their bad behavior in public. Miller seems to be brazen and just openly destroying their own life and career. I feel like there's got to be more to it, since they seem to be completely delusional and out of control on top of the predatory behavior.

    It's all just so awful and strange.
    I don't know anything about ketamine, but I have a relative who's done drugs, and he turned into a monster. Wouldn't surprise me if Miller's inner demons have just been let loose more and more as he puts shit into his system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    I don't know anything about ketamine, but I have a relative who's done drugs, and he turned into a monster. Wouldn't surprise me if Miller's inner demons have just been let loose more and more as he puts shit into his system.
    Could be. But a lot of times drugs are something people with severe mental problems like schizophrenia take as a coping thing and it makes it way worse. I have an uncle with schizophrenia that used to do hard drugs and he was never violent or predatory that I'm aware of, a lot of the paranoia and delusions Miller supposedly has remind me of stuff my uncle would say.

    I'm not trying to excuse Ezra's actions or diagnose anything. It's just such a bizarre situation and I'm wondering what it all means

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    I don't know anything about ketamine, but I have a relative who's done drugs, and he turned into a monster. Wouldn't surprise me if Miller's inner demons have just been let loose more and more as he puts shit into his system.
    Definitely. Mental illness is sometimes a slow creeping thing that can be kicked into overdrive when coupled with drug abuse.

    I went to high school with a guy who was always quirky and funny, like Ezra always seemed, but once he started abusing the wrong kinds of drugs to self-treat his mental illness, he became a very different person.

    Now, I don't want to armchair analyze whatever mental illness/trauma Ezra Miller is clearly suffering from, but it seems clear that they're spiraling mentally and needs to find treatment before anyone gets seriously hurt.

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    Zaslav’s First Movie Crisis: What To Do With Ezra Miller, The Erratic Star Of Warner Bros’ $200M ‘Flash’ Franchise Launch


    “Even though it isn’t on the Warner Bros release calendar until June 23, 2023, The Flash is becoming Warner Bros Discovery CEO David Zaslav’s first movie crisis, because of the escalating coverage of incidents of volatile and odd behavior involving the film’s star, Ezra Miller.

    Zaslav has made clear his desire to grow the DC Universe to MCU scale and has all the ingredients of a first foot forward in The Flash, including the return of Michael Keaton as Batman along with a reprise by Ben Affleck, a $200 million budget and a hot director in Andy Muschietti, who delivered the blockbuster It for the studio. The Warner Bros Discovery CEO exercised his well known penchant for micro-management by declining to greenlight Wonder Twins for being too niche. Zaslav will have to soon make a decision of what to do with the completed picture that is The Flash, and what to do with a young actor who appears to have serious off-set issues.”

    Deadline has heard the studio has tried getting help for Miller, but the troubling headlines continue to pile up. Could you send a potential liability on a global publicity tour and have the actor anchor a huge studio franchise play?

    Zaslav has several choices and he will make one of them soon. Among them: He can pull back on heavily promoting the summer 2023 film, confining it to some P&A and no publicity tour. Or he can relegate it to streaming with HBO Max and take a write-down. Or lean in toward making the movie a hit and then drop Miller if they can’t straighten things out. Warner Bros did that when it dropped Johnny Depp from the Grindelwald character in the Fantastic Beasts franchise, after the actor’s well-publicized, unsuccessful UK lawsuit; the studio replaced Depp with Mads Mikkelsen.

    “There is no winning in this for Warner Bros,” one studio source tells us. “This is an inherited problem for Zaslav. The hope is that the scandal will remain at a low level before the movie is released, and hope for the best to turn out.” In Zaslav’s plan to make DC an explosively successful division like Marvel under his newly structured studio, with its own new boss, the non-binary identifying Miller, we hear, is simply not a part of those plans going forward in the future universe regardless if there are more allegations or not.

    The newest round of unflattering headlines came twice in the last two weeks for the 29-year old Miller. The Daily Beast reported that there was a temporary harassment prevention order this week from a 12-year old and a mother in Greenfield, MA against the actor after Miller allegedly menaced the family and acted inappropriately toward the nonbinary child.

    Last week, the parents of an 18-year-old named Tokata Iron Eyes filed paperwork asking a judge to issue an order of protection against the actor on behalf of their child, saying Miller groomed and brainwashed Tokata.

    “Ezra uses violence, intimidation, threat of violence, fear, paranoia, delusions, and drugs to hold sway over a young adolescent Tokata,” read the filing, which was obtained by multiple outlets.

    The 18-year-old’s parents allege the two met at Standing Rock Reservation in North Dakota when their child was just 12. The parents allege Miller gave Tokata alcohol and drugs, flew the child to London and to places such as Vermont, New York, California and Hawaii. This past week Miller deleted his Instagram account in the face of the North Dakota tribal summons; the actor allegedly mocking authorities about their whereabouts.

    Tokata posted a video on Instagram defending Miller.

    “It’s nobody’s business and nobody is owed a story or outcome,” Tokata said in the two-minute video. “This is my life and these are my decision and I’m disappointed in my parents and the press — in every way.”

    Prior to the recent news about Tokata’s parents’ allegations against Miller, the actor was arrested twice in Hawaii for a dust-up at a karaoke bar in March followed by an arrest for second-degree assault at a residence a month later, for allegedly throwing a chair at a woman at a private party Miller attended, cutting her forehead. During the first incident, the Hawaii Police Department Hilo Patrol reported that Miller became “agitated” when patrons began singing “Shallow” from A Star Is Born.

    “Miller began yelling obscenities and at one point grabbed the microphone from a 23-year-old woman singing karaoke (disorderly conduct offense) and later lunged at a 32-year-old man playing darts (harassment offense). The bar owner asked Miller to calm down several times to no avail.” The actor was arrested, and charged on both offenses with bail set at $500. Bail was provided and Miller was released.

    Two days later, the couple who lived with Miller at a hostel filed a restraining order against the actor after Miller returned home from the karaoke bar, and allegedly threatened to “bury” them. Miller reportedly stole the wife’s passport and husband’s wallet. By mid-April, the restraining order was dropped.

    An even more disturbing incident happened in April 2020: A video went viral that appeared to show Miller choking a woman and throwing her to the ground at a bar in Reykjavik, Iceland, an incident that occurred after Miller was confronted by pushy fans. Miller was escorted out of the venue.

    Born in Wyckoff, NJ, Miller’s career began to grow with a turn on Showtime’s Californication and playing a sociopathic murderous teen in the critically acclaimed Lynne Ramsay movie We Need To Talk About Kevin. Other notable credits followed in The Perks of Being a Wallflower and The Stanford Prison Experiment before Miller landed the role of The Flash in Zack Snyder’s Batman v. Superman. Miller, who displayed a sharp energy and humor, reprised in Justice League. Miller also worked with Warner Bros. in the Fantastic Beasts trilogy as Credence Barebone.

    Warner Bros has so far declined to comment on Miller or where these mounting incidents will leave the studio and the actor’s future. Deadline has reached out to Miller’s legal reps and will update should they have any statements about the recent restraining orders against the actor.”
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    And there you have it. Ezra is done as the Flash. Jesus Christ this fucking cinematic universe lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    And there you have it. Ezra is done as the Flash. Jesus Christ this fucking cinematic universe lmao.
    Another one of Snyder’s amazing castings! Lol All we have now are Gal and Jason, which I’m
    More than ok with
    Done with DC. Can't handle the constant whiplash! Time to go on a hiatus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus Arkham View Post
    Zaslav’s First Movie Crisis: What To Do With Ezra Miller, The Erratic Star Of Warner Bros’ $200M ‘Flash’ Franchise Launch


    “Even though it isn’t on the Warner Bros release calendar until June 23, 2023, The Flash is becoming Warner Bros Discovery CEO David Zaslav’s first movie crisis, because of the escalating coverage of incidents of volatile and odd behavior involving the film’s star, Ezra Miller.

    Zaslav has made clear his desire to grow the DC Universe to MCU scale and has all the ingredients of a first foot forward in The Flash, including the return of Michael Keaton as Batman along with a reprise by Ben Affleck, a $200 million budget and a hot director in Andy Muschietti, who delivered the blockbuster It for the studio. The Warner Bros Discovery CEO exercised his well known penchant for micro-management by declining to greenlight Wonder Twins for being too niche. Zaslav will have to soon make a decision of what to do with the completed picture that is The Flash, and what to do with a young actor who appears to have serious off-set issues.”

    Deadline has heard the studio has tried getting help for Miller, but the troubling headlines continue to pile up. Could you send a potential liability on a global publicity tour and have the actor anchor a huge studio franchise play?

    Zaslav has several choices and he will make one of them soon. Among them: He can pull back on heavily promoting the summer 2023 film, confining it to some P&A and no publicity tour. Or he can relegate it to streaming with HBO Max and take a write-down. Or lean in toward making the movie a hit and then drop Miller if they can’t straighten things out. Warner Bros did that when it dropped Johnny Depp from the Grindelwald character in the Fantastic Beasts franchise, after the actor’s well-publicized, unsuccessful UK lawsuit; the studio replaced Depp with Mads Mikkelsen.

    “There is no winning in this for Warner Bros,” one studio source tells us. “This is an inherited problem for Zaslav. The hope is that the scandal will remain at a low level before the movie is released, and hope for the best to turn out.” In Zaslav’s plan to make DC an explosively successful division like Marvel under his newly structured studio, with its own new boss, the non-binary identifying Miller, we hear, is simply not a part of those plans going forward in the future universe regardless if there are more allegations or not.

    The newest round of unflattering headlines came twice in the last two weeks for the 29-year old Miller. The Daily Beast reported that there was a temporary harassment prevention order this week from a 12-year old and a mother in Greenfield, MA against the actor after Miller allegedly menaced the family and acted inappropriately toward the nonbinary child.

    Last week, the parents of an 18-year-old named Tokata Iron Eyes filed paperwork asking a judge to issue an order of protection against the actor on behalf of their child, saying Miller groomed and brainwashed Tokata.

    “Ezra uses violence, intimidation, threat of violence, fear, paranoia, delusions, and drugs to hold sway over a young adolescent Tokata,” read the filing, which was obtained by multiple outlets.

    The 18-year-old’s parents allege the two met at Standing Rock Reservation in North Dakota when their child was just 12. The parents allege Miller gave Tokata alcohol and drugs, flew the child to London and to places such as Vermont, New York, California and Hawaii. This past week Miller deleted his Instagram account in the face of the North Dakota tribal summons; the actor allegedly mocking authorities about their whereabouts.

    Tokata posted a video on Instagram defending Miller.

    “It’s nobody’s business and nobody is owed a story or outcome,” Tokata said in the two-minute video. “This is my life and these are my decision and I’m disappointed in my parents and the press — in every way.”

    Prior to the recent news about Tokata’s parents’ allegations against Miller, the actor was arrested twice in Hawaii for a dust-up at a karaoke bar in March followed by an arrest for second-degree assault at a residence a month later, for allegedly throwing a chair at a woman at a private party Miller attended, cutting her forehead. During the first incident, the Hawaii Police Department Hilo Patrol reported that Miller became “agitated” when patrons began singing “Shallow” from A Star Is Born.

    “Miller began yelling obscenities and at one point grabbed the microphone from a 23-year-old woman singing karaoke (disorderly conduct offense) and later lunged at a 32-year-old man playing darts (harassment offense). The bar owner asked Miller to calm down several times to no avail.” The actor was arrested, and charged on both offenses with bail set at $500. Bail was provided and Miller was released.

    Two days later, the couple who lived with Miller at a hostel filed a restraining order against the actor after Miller returned home from the karaoke bar, and allegedly threatened to “bury” them. Miller reportedly stole the wife’s passport and husband’s wallet. By mid-April, the restraining order was dropped.

    An even more disturbing incident happened in April 2020: A video went viral that appeared to show Miller choking a woman and throwing her to the ground at a bar in Reykjavik, Iceland, an incident that occurred after Miller was confronted by pushy fans. Miller was escorted out of the venue.

    Born in Wyckoff, NJ, Miller’s career began to grow with a turn on Showtime’s Californication and playing a sociopathic murderous teen in the critically acclaimed Lynne Ramsay movie We Need To Talk About Kevin. Other notable credits followed in The Perks of Being a Wallflower and The Stanford Prison Experiment before Miller landed the role of The Flash in Zack Snyder’s Batman v. Superman. Miller, who displayed a sharp energy and humor, reprised in Justice League. Miller also worked with Warner Bros. in the Fantastic Beasts trilogy as Credence Barebone.

    Warner Bros has so far declined to comment on Miller or where these mounting incidents will leave the studio and the actor’s future. Deadline has reached out to Miller’s legal reps and will update should they have any statements about the recent restraining orders against the actor.”
    Yeah, Miller is gone, to the surprise of no one. I hope that doesn't mean we've seen the last of Barry in the movies, though. Flash is my favorite franchise and to see it get ruined because of this crazy asshole would suck. I hope they just recast and move on.

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    What a mess. I don’t envy however takes over DC Films.

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