Major Leaks on the Future of X-Books & Marvel line X-over [SPOILERS]

[Grunty]

With how often Marvel finds a way to twist what people ask for, I’m questioning just how many fingers the monkey’s paw they’re using has.

Like those hand spider monsters from Elden Ring perhaps?

[gurkle]

Which is sad I wanted X Men Spider-Man Crossovers, but not like this. Not like this...

Another Onslaught parallel, maybe. People had wanted to see the X-Men be less isolated from the wider Marvel universe and fight alongside the Avengers and Fantastic Four, and they finally did... just so those teams could be killed off and removed from the main Marvel Universe for a whole year.

[Kurolegacy]

Like those hand spider monsters from Elden Ring perhaps?

I don’t know what that is but it sounds horrifying.

[Grunty]

I don’t know what that is but it sounds horrifying.

Then perhaps it's better to not elaborate. Simply put, from what i recall, it has 12 fingers.

[Huntsman Spider]

Ahh, I was not aware of the Jackal/Sinister rivalry. Good call.

Thanks. In a nutshell, Jackal was raiding Sinister's labs for genetic material he could use in his own experiments and whipped up a bunch of spider-powered mutant hybrids, which Scarlet Spider (Kaine) confronted alongside the Superior Spider-Man (Otto Octavius in Peter Parker's body). Then Wolverines #5-6 came along and had Sinister with a set of Scarlet Spider clones based on Ben Reilly, which I'd interpret as Sinister jabbing at Jackal for stealing from him.

[Spiderfan001]

I think I'd be fine with it if they had built up to it or better established it (I mean, with all those Data Pages) but not just thrown in out of nowhere to set up a shock value twist. That's not even in the pages of her home book.

Yeah they def. just skipped it to get to the bad sh*t

I dont love the Spidey franchise. I luv more MJ than Spidey if this can work with MJ as a mutant cool. retconect her origin and stuff dont care

We lose the twins give us the redhead.

Maybe MJ power is to be a credible actress

Well editors should care about both and this is terrible for MJ

[LordUltimus]

Honestly, I'm thinking that Marvel is trying to get that Krakoa success to go over to the Spider-Man comics, while ignoring the fact that the Krakoa success is based largely in giving fans what they've wanted for over a decade.

[Spiderfan001]

Honestly, I'm thinking that Marvel is trying to get that Krakoa success to go over to the Spider-Man comics, while ignoring the fact that the Krakoa success is based largely in giving fans what they've wanted for over a decade.

Well ASM has been selling better than X-books, they've been on the top of the charts even though we get like 3 a week so Idk how this is a sales thing

[LordUltimus]

Well ASM has been selling better than X-books, they've been on the top of the charts even though we get like 3 a week so Idk how this is a sales thing

Has it? We haven't had very reliable sources for sales since Marvel left Diamond. Just sources that use a limited amount of comic shops for reference. I'm sure ASM is in the top 15, top 20 at worst, but not necessarily better than, say, Duggan's X-Men.

And also there's the whole "creative bankruptcy" thought.

[Spiderfan001]

Has it? We haven't had very reliable sources for sales since Marvel left Diamond. Just sources that use a limited amount of comic shops for reference. I'm sure ASM is in the top 15, top 20 at worst, but not necessarily better than, say, Duggan's X-Men.

And also there's the whole "creative bankruptcy" thought.

Well it's been consistently top of the charts, higher than all X book/Marvel titles w/ only competition being number 1's and Batman.And that's w/ Spencer's run and Beyond and now we're getting a new number one.

I agree it's creatively bankrupt(and the leaks are not an improvement), but it's selling very well

Also Kraven seems to be involved w/ X-force so more Spidey/x-men tie-ins

[Slicknickshady]

I just want the original Moira back.

[Writerblog]

Honestly, I'm thinking that Marvel is trying to get that Krakoa success to go over to the Spider-Man comics, while ignoring the fact that the Krakoa success is based largely in giving fans what they've wanted for over a decade.

Krakoa success? Spider man books are doing really well, probably better than x-men ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[CoCoBandz]

I just want the original Moira back.

@Percy and maybe she'll be back in 3-4 years. Maybe.

[DragonPiece]

I don't think there's been a single thing about Zeb Well's run that looks even slightly interesting. The big android sinester 6 villain seems dumb, his Beyond arc ended terribly and feels like a waste of time, Romita JR on art is a bad choice regardless if people want to still pretend he's still a good artist

[Matt Rat]

Well it's been consistently top of the charts, higher than all X book/Marvel titles w/ only competition being number 1's and Batman.And that's w/ Spencer's run and Beyond and now we're getting a new number one.

I agree it's creatively bankrupt(and the leaks are not an improvement), but it's selling very well

Also Kraven seems to be involved w/ X-force so more Spidey/x-men tie-ins

I imagine the reasons Spider-Man is outperforming X-Men is why they've decided to try and latch both franchises together, so X-Books can ride the wave off of whatever good will Spider-titles have left.

Spencer's run sold well because it promised the moon when it came to addressing OMD and resolving it. When it didn't, some readers might have stayed loyal to the Beyond arc not realizing Spencer was gone, and many began complaining about Peter and Ben's treatment, and then the book ended with a surge in outrage dollars (Ben and Chasm)