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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    People wishing for a better writer.
    Up until Beyond (let's say after Hellions) I thought Wells was a decent choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    Ben doesn't become Chasm until six months have passed.
    Amazing spider-man 1 starts 6 months later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    Ben doesn't become Chasm until six months have passed.
    We don't know if 6 months have passed. It only states "Months"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sr. Bungle View Post
    We don't know if 6 months have passed. It only states "Months"
    For all we know he's been working with his new pal for a while and MJ is actually with demons that is being controlled by Pryor and that's a part of Ben's plan to hurt Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercwmouth12 View Post
    For all we know he's been working with his new pal for a while and MJ is actually with demons that is being controlled by Pryor and that's a part of Ben's plan to hurt Peter
    I’m not subscribing to theory’s because odds are the plan is to say that MJ dumped him and that’s the explanation no magic, no mind control, just something that stupid.
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    Wow, this is ridiculous. Between this and Ben I think Marvel might hate the concept of Spider-man itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saithor View Post
    Wow, this is ridiculous. Between this and Ben I think Marvel might hate the concept of Spider-man itself.
    Marvel thinks Spider-Man is torture porn where he is constantly set back in life and stuck not getting the girl, being unsuccessful, and failing repeatedly. And they subscribe to this idea based on Peter being about "youth."

    First and foremost Peter is a human, and the vast majority of people grow and develop in life, find a significant other, have kids etc. This version Marvel has been stuck on since 2007 is not relatable.

    Peter Parker stopped becoming about youth the moment Uncle Ben died and he had to become the bread winner and get a job to support Aunt May. Spider-Man is not about youth because people are not about youth. Being about youth forever is not relatable to anyone in life.

    The reason Spider-Man was awesome before OMD was because he grew up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercwmouth12 View Post
    Wells by far if there's no change
    I dunno, Banner is being an ******* by torturing the Hulk, which looks specially bad after Immortal Hulk, where he and Joe saved him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    At least Cates gives us more "Hulk smash" and balls-to-the-wall(s) action. What is Wells offering but ennui and depression?
    Yeah, I guess there's that in Cates' run, I particularly don't care for it since the fights feel meaningless, but it's there for those who like fights more.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    We all know that BND was a collective mid-life crisis from Marvel back then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex85 View Post
    Marvel thinks Spider-Man is torture porn where he is constantly set back in life and stuck not getting the girl, being unsuccessful, and failing repeatedly. And they subscribe to this idea based on Peter being about "youth."

    First and foremost Peter is a human, and the vast majority of people grow and develop in life, find a significant other, have kids etc. This version Marvel has been stuck on since 2007 is not relatable.

    Peter Parker stopped becoming about youth the moment Uncle Ben died and he had to become the bread winner and get a job to support Aunt May. Spider-Man is not about youth because people are not about youth. Being about youth forever is not relatable to anyone in life.

    The reason Spider-Man was awesome before OMD was because he grew up.
    Spider-Man was out of High School within 30 issues. And the people at Marvel think that was the greatest mistake in the company's history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Spider-Man was out of High School within 30 issues. And the people at Marvel think that was the greatest mistake in the company's history.
    Which is absolutely insane given how his popularity grew and thrived post-high school over the decades as he grew up.

    I know the Ultimate comics were popular in the 2000s but the creative team was fire. Bagely on art and Bendis writing. There have been other iterations of high school that were not so popular. Like Untold Tales and the various young Spider-Man series that pop up every few years. Also, I do believe Ultimate would have been just as popular if not more had he graduated the first 30 issues on that title as well.
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    Which was the best selling period of ASM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sr. Bungle View Post
    Which was the best selling period of ASM?
    Early 90s probably. But that has more to do with speculator boom, not because he was married. I think there were issues selling in the 500k up to 1 million in some cases. There is definitely imperial evidence the marriage never hurt sales. It was able to support 4 Peter Parker titles PER month. Something we haven't seen since it went away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex85 View Post
    Which is absolutely insane given how his popularity grew and thrived post-high school over the decades as he grew up.

    I know the Ultimate comics were popular in the 2000s but the creative team was fire. Bagely on art and Bendis writing. There have been other iterations of high school that were not so popular. Like Untold Tales and the various young Spider-Man series that pop up every few years. Also, I do believe Ultimate would have been just as popular if not more had he graduated the first 30 issues on that title as well.
    Marvel's obsession with keeping Spidey young while thinking that's the way to make him work becomes even funnier when you remember Byrne's reboot failed lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex85 View Post
    Early 90s probably. But that has more to do with speculator boom, not because he was married. I think there were issues selling in the 500k up to 1 million in some cases. There is definitely imperial evidence the marriage never hurt sales. It was able to support 4 Peter Parker titles PER month. Something we haven't seen since it went away.
    Marriage was definitely not a problem with Spidey, it's just Marvel pushing their dumbass beliefs in spite of what fans think.

    The one step that could maybe be considered too far in Spidey's life would be him actually having a kid, but marriage itself wasn't a problem even with how awkwardly it happened.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    We all know that BND was a collective mid-life crisis from Marvel back then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex85 View Post
    Marvel thinks Spider-Man is torture porn where he is constantly set back in life and stuck not getting the girl, being unsuccessful, and failing repeatedly. And they subscribe to this idea based on Peter being about "youth."

    First and foremost Peter is a human, and the vast majority of people grow and develop in life, find a significant other, have kids etc. This version Marvel has been stuck on since 2007 is not relatable.

    Peter Parker stopped becoming about youth the moment Uncle Ben died and he had to become the bread winner and get a job to support Aunt May. Spider-Man is not about youth because people are not about youth. Being about youth forever is not relatable to anyone in life.

    The reason Spider-Man was awesome before OMD was because he grew up.
    This. All of this.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Got the chance to read this. Not a lot happens. Everyone is mad at Peter. He has been "gone" for months it seems. Nothing is revealed as to what "peter did" The MJ part is interesting, and the art is pretty good. Feel it will be a while to we find out what happened / what's really going on.

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