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    Cool Darth Sidious Tribute

    An AMV to (arguably) the GOAT of all fictional villains -

    "So you've come to the end now alive but dead inside."

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    Sheev is great. And proof that villains can be pure evil and don't need the all too overused idea that they need to be sympathized with or have a backstory that rationalizes such actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    Sheev is great. And proof that villains can be pure evil and don't need the all too overused idea that they need to be sympathized with or have a backstory that rationalizes such actions.
    Agreed

    Sidious is probably the best example of a negative flat character arc. A flat character stays the same throughout the narrative they do not end up in a better or worse place than they start in, they are a constant. A flat character is a catalyst who changes other characters for better or worse via their actions (and/or by the way in which those characters react to the actions of our flat character) and sometimes the entire fictional universe. Goku is an example of a positive flat character Spider-Man is another good example of such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    Sheev is great. And proof that villains can be pure evil and don't need the all too overused idea that they need to be sympathized with or have a backstory that rationalizes such actions.
    While playing SWtoR, it occured to me that if the Dark Side of the Sith is fueled by what they consider negative emotions like hate and anger and fear, then it's actually in the Sith's best interests for the areas under their sway to be horrible places full of cruelty and despair and frustated rage. They aren't just terribly inefficient 'evil overlords,' they are actually *making themselves more powerful* (and the Dark Side of the Force more predominent) by making life terrible for everyone else around them. The more angry and frustrated, fearful and despondent, the common people are, the less filled with hope and joy and serenity, the more it 'roils up' the Force, and makes it easier for dark side-users to tap.

    That's my rationale for why Sith always seem to be terrible at running things, deliberately encouraging cruel and tyrannical empires filled with betrayal, simmering resentment, fearful oppression leading to inevitable rebellions, etc. It stirs up the Force and makes it easier for them to use their dark side abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    Agreed

    Sidious is probably the best example of a negative flat character arc. A flat character stays the same throughout the narrative they do not end up in a better or worse place than they start in, they are a constant. A flat character is a catalyst who changes other characters for better or worse via their actions (and/or by the way in which those characters react to the actions of our flat character) and sometimes the entire fictional universe. Goku is an example of a positive flat character Spider-Man is another good example of such.
    Although Disney's yet to put out their version of his origin, the one we got in DARTH PLAGUEIS pretty much inferred he's always been a bad seed since his youth, instead of a good guy gone bad like certain other Sith/Dark Jedi etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    Although Disney's yet to put out their version of his origin, the one we got in DARTH PLAGUEIS pretty much inferred he's always been a bad seed since his youth, instead of a good guy gone bad like certain other Sith/Dark Jedi etc.
    Haha, and Plagueis calls Sidious out for such when Sidious threatens to join the Jedi Order after killing his family, an event Plagueis covered up. Plagueis says something to the effect of "why would the Jedi want a psychopath like you?" calling Young Palpatine's bluff.
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    I hope we get Palpatine in the new series, but between the leaks and how awful the last show was, I am not holding my breath.

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