Dr. Strange 2 (spoilers)

[Username taken]

I have thoughts.

I will watch this again but I don't like what they did with Wanda.

[krazijoe]

I have thoughts.

I will watch this again but I don't like what they did with Wanda.

She basically did a NO MORE WANDA PARENT EXCEPT ME sort of thing.

[Witchfan]

We already have a discussion thread for this film.

[80sbaby]

We already have a discussion thread for this film.

This is one we don't have to use spoiler tags for.

Anyways, saw the movie and I liked it a lot. Did not expect Wanda to be the main villain so that was a surprise. I was hoping she could somehow be redeemed because I like her character but nope! I do wonder how they're going to bring the twins into the MCU proper, as I thought that's what was going to happen in this film.

I wish they hadn't nerfed America so much because I like her flight and super-strength.

[Wildling]

I didn't think the movie was flawless and I'm not a Marvel movie fan in general but the horror fan in me was grinning ear to ear at how much Disney and Feige let Raimi get away with for what looks like will be one of the hugest blockbusters this summer, kicking the season off also.

Jump scares? Haunted house sub-plot? Slasher-style chase sequence? Oh my!

[Tofali]

I have thoughts.

I will watch this again but I don't like what they did with Wanda.

If anyone saw WandaVision and concluded that the Wanda they saw in the show and the Crazy they saw in MoM is any different then I don't know what to say. She was the most authentic character in the movie.

However every thing else I found to not be MCU, It was unentertaining and over-indulgent(in part of the director). I dislike horror movies Its use in the mcu is just meh. The Illuminati were underwhelming, uninteresting and pointless. I don't ever see myself re-watching this movie again. Hopefully it succeeds and becomes a juggernaut but Doctor Strange to me personally as an IP is a failure. Even though I like the first more than this I still don't like both of them. Infinity War was the only standout that Strange had IMO.

There wasn't even one character that I liked in this movie. None I sympathize for, they were all either villainous or uninteresting.

[Somecrazyaussie]

If anyone saw WandaVision and concluded that the Wanda they saw in the show and the Crazy they saw in MoM is any different then I don't know what to say. She was the most authentic character in the movie.

However every thing else I found to not be MCU, It was unentertaining and over-indulgence(in part of the director). I dislike horror movies Its use in the mcu is just meh. The Illuminati were underwhelming, uninteresting and pointless. I don't ever see myself re-watching this movie again. Hopefully it succeeds and becomes a juggernaut but Doctor Strange to me personally as an IP is a failure. Even though I like the first more than this I still don't like both of them. Infinity War was the only standout that Strange had IMO.

There wasn't even one character that I liked in this movie. None I sympathize for, they were all either villainous or uninteresting.

Strange probably isn't a character for you and, if you aren't a horror fan, the film likely isn't either.

The first film captured the mysticism aspect of the character and this touched upon the horror. All we need is a third film mixing the two together and we will be set.

[Panic]

Strange probably isn't a character for you and, if you aren't a horror fan, the film likely isn't either.

The first film captured the mysticism aspect of the character and this touched upon the horror. All we need is a third film mixing the two together and we will be set.

Neither films captured Doctor Strange's classic personality. They are determined to portray him as an arrogant smart-arse, though in the comics (up until the Architects era) he is serious and respected. Infinity War is his best showing, imo, because he is the straight-man for the most part. It just works better to portray him as the classic wise-man he was created to be.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Neither films captured Doctor Strange's classic personality. They are determined to portray him as an arrogant smart-arse, though in the comics (up until the Architects era) he is serious and respected. Infinity War is his best showing, imo, because he is the straight-man for the most part. It just works better to portray him as the classic wise-man he was created to be.

The issue with depicting him as the wise mentor figure is that no one cares about the mentor, they care about the guy being trained.

I do like how the resolution was more emotional than magic based, though

[Somecrazyaussie]

Neither films captured Doctor Strange's classic personality. They are determined to portray him as an arrogant smart-arse, though in the comics (up until the Architects era) he is serious and respected. Infinity War is his best showing, imo, because he is the straight-man for the most part. It just works better to portray him as the classic wise-man he was created to be.

They done that with all the characters to a degree. Tony was never depicted as he was in the MCU before RDjr was cast. Thor now acts more like Hercules would. Even Peter Quill didn't act like he does in the GoTG films in the comics. But I think that stems more from the actors performance choices than anything Marvel has determined they should be played.

And everybody had a decent showing in Infinity War because the whole film called for them to be so (until Endgame came afterwards).

[Panic]

They done that with all the characters to a degree. Tony was never depicted as he was in the MCU before RDjr was cast. Thor now acts more like Hercules would. Even Peter Quill didn't act like he does in the GoTG films in the comics. But I think that stems more from the actors performance choices than anything Marvel has determined they should be played.

And everybody had a decent showing in Infinity War because the whole film called for them to be so (until Endgame came afterwards).

No, Star Lord had play the idiot who screwed things up for everyone, and Hulk was a coward. Particularly fans of the Hulk assumed he'd find his courage and beat Thanos down a little, but that didn't happen. Instead he got to play non-combatant professor, something no Hulk fan wanted.

[Username taken]

If anyone saw WandaVision and concluded that the Wanda they saw in the show and the Crazy they saw in MoM is any different then I don't know what to say. She was the most authentic character in the movie.

However every thing else I found to not be MCU, It was unentertaining and over-indulgent(in part of the director). I dislike horror movies Its use in the mcu is just meh. The Illuminati were underwhelming, uninteresting and pointless. I don't ever see myself re-watching this movie again. Hopefully it succeeds and becomes a juggernaut but Doctor Strange to me personally as an IP is a failure. Even though I like the first more than this I still don't like both of them. Infinity War was the only standout that Strange had IMO.

There wasn't even one character that I liked in this movie. None I sympathize for, they were all either villainous or uninteresting.

The Illuminati were just fodder.

I was disappointed. Reed telling Wanda this guy can kill you with a whisper or something only for her to seal up his mouth and blow off his head looked ridiculous. Bad ass but ridiculous.

And Professor X, he’s died so many times on screen that it’s not even shocking anymore.

[Tofali]

The Illuminati were just fodder.

I was disappointed. Reed telling Wanda this guy can kill you with a whisper or something only for her to seal up his mouth and blow off his head looked ridiculous. Bad ass but ridiculous.

And Professor X, he’s died so many times on screen that it’s not even shocking anymore.

The Illuminati looked horrible, The writing, directing, acting, wardrobe and makeup for the performers and their scenes were below subpar. You could tell Black Bolt and Captain Marvel were on wires flying. I thought we were done with this Fox X-Men kind of stunt nonsense.

Wong shouting during Wanda's attack at Kamataj and Mordo's pronunciation of the word Illuminati elicited a lot of derision in my theatre. It was cringe.

[charliehustle415]

The Illuminati looked horrible, The writing, directing, acting, wardrobe and makeup for the performers and their scenes were below subpar. You could tell Black Bolt and Captain Marvel were on wires flying. I thought we were done with this Fox X-Men kind of stunt nonsense.

Wong shouting during Wanda's attack at Kamataj and Mordo's pronunciation of the word Illuminati elicited a lot of derision in my theatre. It was cringe.

I honestly don't even think they were in the same room. Not only that why did they use a CGI suit for Reed? The effects were so bad, you can see the green screen if look at Strange's hair, I mean the wigs! They were out of control, what happened to trying to hide how the magic trick works?

[jetengine]

I loved the Illuminati getting murked, nothing wrong with subverting expectations which this movie does multiple times. Also reinforces the core themes about arrogance and hubris. Strange warned them, the Illuminati ignored him so self sure they could deal with Wanda...and died horribly for it.