Keep in mind that you have about as much chance of changing my mind as I do of changing yours.
Blindspot is really symptomatic of a larger problem with comics, in that one writer will rarely respect what's come before.
We the fans know that, and thus are hesitant to get invested.
And that's made all the worse by characters who fail, and often seem to get punished for that. I mean hell, Inhumans got slaughtered after their push failed, and reduced to their old status qou of a Royal Family.
So fans of that series, who were brought in by the push, were screwed, and other fans saw what happened when the 'new thing' failed.
A self fulfilling prophecy, really.
Yeah, these days only three of the non-Royal Inhumans are seeing any success - Quake (a pre-existing character retconned to an Inhuman), Ms. Marvel, and Moon Girl. The latter two both have their own upcoming TV shows, but with the Inhuman connection removed.
Appreciation Thread Indexes
Marvel | Spider-Man | X-Men | NEW!! DC Comics | Batman | Superman | Wonder Woman
I agree with this. Headline Characters can stick but it's usually as a result of a confluence of many factors occurring simultaneously. And Time.
But I would also add "readership interest". The onus is not only on the creators to give us something we could love and become fanatics over. We, the readers also have to recognise that a new character could be the next big popular thing and be invested in said character. Even if that character's introduction might not be the most stellar and exciting and awesome! (it very rarely ever was).
Take new LGBTQ characters, for example, I think most readers now are very dismissive of any new LGBTQ characters being created and pushed, with good reason as their introduction can be problematic but, for any number of individualistic reasons, the attempt is usually shut down, sometimes pre-emptively, almost immediately. Like the Marvel Voices anthologies. Sure, Marvel can do more, but will doing more even matter if the audience they're trying to reach refuse to be invested because it's an "agenda" or some other silly reason?
I'm not saying to blindly support "rubbish" but there are a perfectly good/mediocre books and characters that are written by new upcoming writers and artists that, with Time and vested interest from both sides, can grow and flourish...With. Time. Overnight Success for new characters is a "lighting in a bottle phenomenon".
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Here is the thing-
A lot of us would LOVE to see Marvel Comics Present and others return.
However the issue aside from price is WHO do you put in those books?
Because SOMEBODY is going to take issue with whoever is in that book.
Lets take the Marvel Voices-we redefine it to $10 for 100 pages.
You are assured of 5 complete 20 page stories.
1 is automatically confirmed to be a slot for Peter, Logan, Thor, Iron Man and that lot.
2 is from someone from the above's franchise-Peter's case anyone from Miles to Black Cat to Rocket Racer to Hornet
(the above 2 in that case can be combined to one 40 page story)
3-5 is open season.
So for example would this entice anyone?
Marvel Presents #1
1 Peter Parker
2 Black Cat
3 Rich Ryder Nova
4 New Warriors (I would not be against tossing in the aborted series here for 5 issues)
5 Rouge from X-Men
Marvel Presents #2
1 Thor
2 ENchantress
3 Namor
4 New Warriors
5 Mosaic (Inhumans)
Excellent idea except...you run into the problem of some (most) close-minded single-character fans who eg. LOVES ROGUE!!!! but will not buy MP01 because they only care about...Rogue.
I would say...keep the MP stories franchise centric. Build your anthology within and around the franchise and introduce your new characters there at the very least you are assured your Spidey fan or X-Fans or Avengers fans would be more invested...and Bloody Hell make it cost attractive...even if that means BnW on Newsprint.
Lord Ewing *Praise His name! Uplift Him in song!* Your divine works will be remembered and glorified in worship for all eternity. Amen!
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Well you would STILL have the same issues you are having now-a faction of fans and store owners who would take issue with that. Because they don't care for any character they view as a threat to what they like. Even if they haven't bought a comic in years.
Yet will scream agenda for any book that is not straight white and male. Every other company can be diverse without complaint except the big two.
The only other option is removing them from the equation by doing OGNs that could be sold for $10-$15.
This is so true. I’ll give you a recent example. Roger Gocking the Porcupine. Dennis Hopeless Hallum took a seldom ever used D list supervillain and invested in him. By the time he got done with him he was a bonafide superhero who was romantically involved with Jessica Drew Spider-Woman and appeared quite a bit in her book. A new writer comes along and pretty much discards everything he did with the character. Then even worse another writer in a one shot Lucky the Dog comic book turns him back into a villain who steals pizzas. That is total disrespect for what Hallum did with the character. Lazy writing at its finest. Poor editorial for allowing this to happen. If a writer invests this much in a character then another writer shouldn’t just be allowed to come along and trash a few years worth of characterization in one story.
Yeah, the same happened to Constrictor, killed and replaced off panel by Spencer after all the work Slott and Christos Gage put into him.
These are fictional 2-D characters. Getting invested isn't hard. But it's a lot harder when we know that they can get hit by a bus at any time.