Nightwing #92 Preview

[Hypo]

Nightwing #92 Preview
Writer: Tom Taylor
Artist: Bruno Redondo

[Frontier]

This is just making me miss the classic Batgirl suit more. Like, what's Redondo's design got over that beauty of a costume? White eyes? Purple?

Although seeing Batgirl with freckles reminds me of All-Star Batman and Robin. Remember that ending with Babs about to face jail time for her expletive-fueled skateboard vigilante rampage?

I do like a good Batgirl and Robin team-up. Of course they don't listen to Batman but still end up needing to be saved by him.

[Restingvoice]

Hurm... beautiful art... but I'm gonna need a clear size difference between Babs and Dick because the timeline so far is supposed to be like this...

- Batman and Dick as a young Robin sans pants in World's Finest
- Dick and Babs first met in Gotham Park as high school junior fighting bullies and Babs saw Wayne Manor for the first time
- This scene
- Kara and Dick as older teen Robin with pants in World's Finest

But Babs now look like an adult while Dick is still a mid teen even though their Gotham Park meeting they're the same size

Though I can just chalk it up to the art prioritizing homage to old comics when Dick and Babs have a larger age difference if necessary

[Frontier]

Hurm... beautiful art... but I'm gonna need a clear size difference between Babs and Dick because the timeline so far is supposed to be like this...

- Batman and Dick as a young Robin sans pants in World's Finest
- Dick and Babs first met in Gotham Park as high school junior fighting bullies and Babs saw Wayne Manor for the first time
- This scene
- Kara and Dick as older teen Robin with pants in World's Finest

But Babs now look like an adult while Dick is still a mid teen even though their Gotham Park meeting they're the same size

Though I can just chalk it up to the art prioritizing homage to old comics when Dick and Babs have a larger age difference if necessary

I wonder if they'll ever retcon Batgirl: Year One back into continuity.

[JackJustMetMartin]

Not a fan of Dick being so impulsive here. It wouldn't be so bad, but he's also incompetent enough to get hit straight away and go down.

Also what's with Tom giving Dick head injuries? It's happening every few issues, and we've all got trauma from injustice.

[Rac7d*]

Hurm... beautiful art... but I'm gonna need a clear size difference between Babs and Dick because the timeline so far is supposed to be like this...

- Batman and Dick as a young Robin sans pants in World's Finest
- Dick and Babs first met in Gotham Park as high school junior fighting bullies and Babs saw Wayne Manor for the first time
- This scene
- Kara and Dick as older teen Robin with pants in World's Finest

But Babs now look like an adult while Dick is still a mid teen even though their Gotham Park meeting they're the same size

Though I can just chalk it up to the art prioritizing homage to old comics when Dick and Babs have a larger age difference if necessary

Girls mature faster then boys plus heels
When he returns from his titans exploits he will be man wonder

[Restingvoice]

Girls mature faster then boys plus heels
When he returns from his titans exploits he will be man wonder

True...
I'm gonna guess-assign the ages a bit
Debut - 12
Past World's Finest - 13
Teen Titans - 14
Gotham Park - 15
This scene -16
Kara World's Finest - 17
Fired - 18
My male friends shot up in height suddenly at age 15-16 so yeah I guess it works. Dick is about the same size in here and in Gotham Park flashback. So him being short right now still fits.

[sifighter]

True...
I'm gonna guess-assign the ages a bit
Debut - 12
Past World's Finest - 13
Teen Titans - 14
Gotham Park - 15
This scene -16
Kara World's Finest - 17
Fired - 18
My male friends shot up in height suddenly at age 15-16 so yeah I guess it works. Dick is about the same size in here and in Gotham Park flashback. So him being short right now still fits.

As a rough estimate yeah I would say this lines generally lines up with what we know.

I'm fine with Robin being impulsive, but isn't Dick getting saved a lot in this run?

I think its meant to show Dick's friendships/relationships that he has built in the DC universe.

[Frontier]

Not a fan of Dick being so impulsive here. It wouldn't be so bad, but he's also incompetent enough to get hit straight away and go down.

Also what's with Tom giving Dick head injuries? It's happening every few issues, and we've all got trauma from injustice.

I'm fine with Robin being impulsive, but isn't Dick getting saved a lot in this run?

Girls mature faster then boys plus heels
When he returns from his titans exploits he will be man wonder

It looks like her boots are flat here, so Redondo didn't go classic enough to give Batgirl heels .

[Ascended]

I'm fine with Robin being impulsive, but isn't Dick getting saved a lot in this run?

I thought so too, for the first arc or so. It's felt like less of a problem as time goes on though. Maybe it's just me?

Taylor was leaning on Dick's injury in the first arc, and Dick not being back to 100% yet. It's mentioned a bunch of times, reminding readers that Dick had recently taken a bullet to the head. It wasn't satisfying, after so many years of abuse I wanted to see Dick wearing so much plot armor and being such a badass he'd make Batman look slow. But re-reading it, I can't say it didn't make sense or was "bad" storytelling. It just wasn't the fanservice I wanted.

But over the last few issues I don't really remember Dick getting chumped. He's had some help and still taken some knocks sure, but that's just felt like typical superheroics and Dick never really felt incompetent or weak to me. Like, sure, Wally took down the Beast and his goons before Dick could really do anything but that's what we'd expect and demand; Wally's the friggin Flash.

I still have my issues with the run, don't get me wrong, and I'm still waiting for that moment of raw badassery. But even though he's getting beat to crap here, again, it still feels like less of an issue than it was.

[Godlike13]

Hurm... beautiful art... but I'm gonna need a clear size difference between Babs and Dick because the timeline so far is supposed to be like this...

- Batman and Dick as a young Robin sans pants in World's Finest
- Dick and Babs first met in Gotham Park as high school junior fighting bullies and Babs saw Wayne Manor for the first time
- This scene
- Kara and Dick as older teen Robin with pants in World's Finest

But Babs now look like an adult while Dick is still a mid teen even though their Gotham Park meeting they're the same size

Though I can just chalk it up to the art prioritizing homage to old comics when Dick and Babs have a larger age difference if necessary

I think its their way of skating around the they were the same age now edict. Following the edict technically, yet letting the readers eyes see the classic dynamic.

[InfamousBG]

Nightwing #92 Preview
Writer: Tom Taylor
Artist: Bruno Redondo

Really looking forward to this. I love Taylor. I actually love everything he is doing with the character.

[OOPS]

Really looking forward to this. I love Taylor. I actually love everything he is doing with the character.

I guess that is my question. What is it you see being done with the character? How has Dick grown as either Dick Grayson or Nightwing?

I don't see getting rich and throwing money at a problem as growth. I believe it was a Detective Comic that showed Bruce funded an orphanage/group home. Then he realized just giving the money didn't stop the children being trafficked and killed. In the issue he and Damian learned that even though the numbers added up, just having a foundation fund a charity wasn't enough. Bruce needed to give personal attention to the groups he funded and not just to the reports. Kind if like Dick now funding an organization that had killed people.

Similarly, on the mentoring point, Dick is mentoring Jon. Jon who is Superman, has a supportive mother, a supportive grandfather, supportive friends , a team and boyfriend. While the child Dick mentored for years, whose mom had the child killed, a villain grandfather, three siblings with tentative relationships, a father who tips over the line to emotional abuse, no friends, a team that last we saw literally hate him, and no money or resources as far as Dick know....was in an actual Death Tournament and died two *more* times. Added to which, he apparently didn't even tell the child's father about the death tournament. I guess I just don't see that as growth as a mentor from Dick's days as Batman or a mentor to Jason and Tim....or the Titans.

I really want to see it, but I dont.