She-Hulk: Attorney at Law

[Vegeta]

Overall I liked it. But how did a Jeep have enough horsepower to move the Hulk? Just because Jen is a She-Hulk, her stepping on the pedal still wouldn't make it any stronger, and I don't think Bruce's gamma irradiated blood got into the fuel line...

[Zero Hunter]

Hulk blood is not a magic potion. Bruce even says its only because their family that she got off with no problems. Going all the way back to the Incredible Hulk movie we saw how Hulk blood can change a person when Sam Stern got infected with it and his head starting mutating almost right away (Come on Marvel lets see the damn Leader for gods sake we all know he is out there somewhere in the MCU)

[HollowSage]

Of course but I don't see how dealing with catcalling somehow makes her better at dealing with her anger. Especially given how this episode showed that was not the case. She would have killed those guys if Bruce didn't tackle her.

That was only her second transformation. She acknowledged that the experience was intense and overwhelming at first. She needed time to adjust and center herself.

As for the constantly dealing with fear and anger. A lot of men don’t realize what it’s like for women unless you talk to them about it. I remember a woman telling me how every time they do something as simple as walking to their car in a parking lot they are constantly on guard and aware of their surroundings.

That struck me because I never give it a second thought. Sure I could be mugged on the way to my car but it’s not something that I think about and I certainly don’t fear being sexually assaulted. However these are very real concerns for women who are more likely to be targeted.

So between that and all the mansplaining and condescension they have to constantly deal with I have no problem believing that women are better at dealing with fear and anger because they have more practice.

[Maestro 216]

That was only her second transformation. She acknowledged that the experience was intense and overwhelming at first. She needed time to adjust and center herself.

As for the constantly dealing with fear and anger. A lot of men don’t realize what it’s like for women unless you talk to them about it. I remember a woman telling me how every time they do something as simple as walking to their car in a parking lot they are constantly on guard and aware of their surroundings.

That struck me because I never give it a second thought. Sure I could be mugged on the way to my car but it’s not something that I think about and I certainly don’t fear being sexually assaulted. However these are very real concerns for women who are more likely to be targeted.

So between that and all the mansplaining and condescension they have to constantly deal with I have no problem believing that women are better at dealing with fear and anger because they have more practice.

But then according to the alt-rght they are on their period being femnazis etc.

[ChrisIII]

Hulk blood is not a magic potion. Bruce even says its only because their family that she got off with no problems. Going all the way back to the Incredible Hulk movie we saw how Hulk blood can change a person when Sam Stern got infected with it and his head starting mutating almost right away (Come on Marvel lets see the damn Leader for gods sake we all know he is out there somewhere in the MCU)

It's not canon to the MCU but the first Hulk movie also implied that the self-experimentation of Banner's father on himself and later on his son created the unique conditions that the gamma radiation unleashed.

The comics sort of implied this a bit too, although it seemed to be kind of anti-mutant paranoia on Brian Banner's part, although Al Ewing's Immortal Hulk finale does make you wonder if it runs in the family. (Turns out the Sterns are related to the Banners/Walters).


As for the anger trigger, this was in the very early comics too....Morbius actually fixed it around issue #12 of the original run and made it simply willpower (Also she was kind of stuck in SH form for about a decade and a half as well, I think shortly after she left the FF). Although of course Civil War II brought it back...

[frankiedetroit]

Overall I liked it. But how did a Jeep have enough horsepower to move the Hulk? Just because Jen is a She-Hulk, her stepping on the pedal still wouldn't make it any stronger, and I don't think Bruce's gamma irradiated blood got into the fuel line...

Yes! That took me and my son out of the story and we had to MAKE ourselves get back into it. Overall, I liked the episode though I confess to never once having wondered about Steve Rogers' virginity, so that extended joke was kinda lost on me. My son, who is 10, thought it was hilarious.

[abulafia]

as a man working in a female dominated field (senior citizens health care) i regularly experience ass claps, hair grapping, belly rubbing. but as a confident man, i just draw my conclusions from that.
but jen putting mensplaning, catcalling etc on the same level as bruce fearing to kill people, or even damaging the whole planet, while the other is on control, living with that and even having tried to commit suicide, is a mockery of his struggles.

[CliffHanger2]

I'm not sure if I trust Marvel to do Planet Hulks' story justice with how they handled it in Ragnarok.

Yeah it's def not a comedy.

[80sbaby]

as a man working in a female dominated field (senior citizens health care) i regularly experience ass claps, hair grapping, belly rubbing. but as a confident man, i just draw my conclusions from that.
but jen putting mensplaning, catcalling etc on the same level as bruce fearing to kill people, or even damaging the whole planet, while the other is on control, living with that and even having tried to commit suicide, is a mockery of his struggles.

That's not what happened lol she wasn't comparing his fear of hurting people to anything. She was talking about how she can control her anger because she's had practice. That's it. You're really trying to hate this show for some reason?

[Rincewind]

Overall I liked it. But how did a Jeep have enough horsepower to move the Hulk? Just because Jen is a She-Hulk, her stepping on the pedal still wouldn't make it any stronger, and I don't think Bruce's gamma irradiated blood got into the fuel line...

Hmmm, I can do this.

Okay, so since Bruce regularly drives the jeep in Hulk form, he has modified the engine and jeep structure to fully handle his weight. In the scene he was leaning forward with his center of gravity over the front of the jeep. Jen put the jeep into four wheel drive giving her extra traction. Bruce was standing on some leaves or gravel or sand that didn't give him any traction. As the jeep moves, he falls forward onto the hood of the jeep.

Does that work?

[80sbaby]

I figured he just wasn't braced for it. His feet weren't even on the ground.

[HollowSage]

Hmmm, I can do this.

Okay, so since Bruce regularly drives the jeep in Hulk form, he has modified the engine and jeep structure to fully handle his weight. In the scene he was leaning forward with his center of gravity over the front of the jeep. Jen put the jeep into four wheel drive giving her extra traction. Bruce was standing on some leaves or gravel or sand that didn't give him any traction. As the jeep moves, he falls forward onto the hood of the jeep.

Does that work?

Congratulations! You win the coveted NO PRIZE.

[j9ac9k]

I only wish they'd dwelled on it because Jen not having a split-personality like Bruce did or the fact that they're genetically compatible with Gamma Radiation seems tailor made to be explored...although I'm not sure how plot-driven this show will be.

While she may not have Bruce's issues with "the other guy," Jen's 4th wall breaking might be her version of that. It'll be interesting to see if it's addressed, especially since Bruce definitely heard her doing it.

Either way, I'm hoping we get more characterization - the first ep made me like her, but I feel like I know nothing about her as a person.

[mace11]

Update
SHE-HULK: ATTORNEY AT LAW 86% Avg rating 7.25/10
Audience Score 65 or
64% Avg rating 3.5 if you go to season 1 part of she hulk

She-Hulk Gets Review Bombed Before Release


https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/ma...-critics-fans/

By the way other sites were/are being reviewed bomb as well like RT etc..


The She-Hulk Review Debacle Just Keeps Getting Weirder

Disney and Marvel's latest television series knows a thing or two about rules and getting angry, but that is probably on account of the main character being both a Hulk and a lawyer. Skilled in both respective aspects of her life, Jennifer Walters (Tatiana Maslany) is the cousin of Bruce Banner (Mark Ruffalo), who, for the uninitiated, is better known as the Hulk. Although Jennifer wants to focus on her career and paying off her student debt, she is instead forced into fights that she wants no part of, but as Bruce tells her, being a Hulk puts a target on her back.

Speaking of having a target on your back, Marvel is no neophyte when it comes to a polarizing response to its properties. According to Inverse, Rotten Tomatoes had to remove toxic reviews from the movie "Captain Marvel" due to a brigade effort to review bomb the film. Likewise, "Ms. Marvel" shared a similar fate, and "Ms. Marvel" star Iman Vellani responded to NME about these reoccurring efforts by saying, "It's honestly quite laughable and I think change is scary for a lot of people. And having a show that surrounds a 16-year-old girl who's Pakistani and Muslim and a superhero is scary for a lot of people. I think this is just gonna rip the Band Aid off and hopefully people will fall in love with her." However, it seems this tired story is getting another spin with "She-Hulk: Attorney at Law," but what is exactly happening?

Users are both review bombing and propping She-Hulk up on IMDd




Considering the systematic attacks on Marvel television shows and movies, it should come as no real surprise that "She-Hulk: Attorney at Law" is under barrage. This time though, instead of an army of internet denizens engaging in armchair assassinations of user-submitted scores, it appears as if there are now two camps attempting to manipulate scores. On one end of the spectrum, we have several people doing their best to bring down a score, and in response, a group of people has also taken it on themselves to prop a score up. This has led to some rather interesting results, with IMDb being a perfect example.


Taking a look at the IMDb user scores for "She-Hulk," one can notice what can only be described as an inverted bell curve. As of this writing, there are just shy of 19,000 user submissions, but instead of a nice run of different opinions, it looks like there are two extremely different camps of thought when it comes to the show. Of those 19,000 votes, there are 6,374 submissions that say "She-Hulk" is a perfect 10, while on the flip side of that, there are 5,429 that say the show is a one out of 10. These two scores constitute 62% of the total vote, which results in "She-Hulk" having an average score of 5.9, but this score is a balance between two extremes.

The IMDb user reviews highlight a disconnect between fans

The IMDb user reviews help to illuminate why there is such a disconnect between fans. IMDB user goldstone-77 said of their one-star review, "Probably the worst MCU show to date, and that's saying something. She is obnoxious. Too much feminism, way to alienate a large portion of your potential audience. The premise of the blood falling on her arm and turning her was simplistic and unimaginative." On the flip side of that coin, user noahbmayfield reviewed "She-Hulk" positively and stated, "[Let's] get one thing out of the way: There are a million reviews on here detailing the infuriating review bombing from the ever-misogynistic Marvel fandom, so I don't think we need one more. But, while I do want to keep this as an honest review rather than a retaliation, I will say that, yes, I'm just as annoyed and disappointed as you that this kind of review bombing is still going on."

However, IMDb isn't the only place this stratification is happening, but it is the most pronounced. As mentioned earlier, Rotten Tomatoes had taken steps to remove toxic reviews from "Captain Marvel," but it seems as if there is still some of that going on with "She-Hulk," as the show has a Rotten Tomatoes critic score of 86%, while the audience score is 66%. This isn't a huge discrepancy, but the user reviews echo the similar sentiments of the IMDb reviews.


Rotten Tomatoes and Reddit reviews are just as diverse

In their Rotten Tomatoes review, user Jay E gave "She-Hulk" a half a star out of five, and said, "This show [really] has no direction... pretty disappointed tbh. I guess the MCU is trying to cater to 30 year old family-less women who may see past the cringy writing, bad cgi, and poor direction." Again, to illustrate the absolute division of fans, user Troy W stated, "I can't believe I am pulling this card but, the negative reviewers obviously have never read the Dan Slot (which is the same sense this show is based on) run of She-Hulk. Their heads are really going to explode when she starts sleeping with who she damn well pleases. She-Hulk is in control of herself more than Hulk, even her 'Savage' form is more in control. Why? Because she is female. It is, and always has been that way in the comics."

Reddit is also a place where the proverbial battle lines are being drawn for "She-Hulk," with u/rowdy_nik saying that they didn't think Marvel shows could get worse after "Ms. Marvel," and complained about Disney pushing propaganda and ruining legacy heroes. U/LooseSeal88 absolutely adored "She-Hulk," and said that the character has quickly become one of their favorites. They then questioned if the people with negative comments even watched the same show. U/annoyingrelative probably said it best when it comes to the varying opinions surrounding "She-Hulk," and they noted that the show, which they consider fun, won't exactly be everybody's cup of tea. In summation and considering the varying comments surrounding the series, it seems as if the polarizing reviews of "She-Hulk" are yet another result of opposing cultural views, and "She-Hulk" is simply another battleground.

https://www.looper.com/972155/the-sh..._campaign=clip


‘She-Hulk’ Is Getting Review-Bombed Even Harder Than ‘Ms. Marvel’

Yes, more than a third of all reviews for She-Hulk are 1 star, which makes its current IMDB score 5.4 out of 10, the lowest of all the MCU series. Ms. Marvel is still at a 6.2 with 19.9% 1 star reviews, so it’s not like IMDB every really goes and tries to sort through these kinds of bombing campaigns. And as I posted last time, here’s what this curve looks like for a “just okay” series like Falcon and the Winter Soldier that no one is bombing:

On Rotten Tomatoes it’s less severe. She-Hulk has a 90% critic score with 255 reviews in and 77% audience score, which isn’t great (it’s the lowest among MCU shows at the moment), but it’s not as intensive of a bombing run as what’s being shown on IMDB.

All anyone has is their opinion, of course, but there’s a difference between a show or movie reviewing worse than average, and a literal flood of one star reviews that are incredibly disproportionate compared to every other show except for Ms. Marvel.

After having watched the first episode this morning, I’d say the complaints about CG are mostly moot now, as things look a lot better in the live show than they did in the trailers. I also thought the comedy and fourth wall-breaking worked, but I’m certainly curious to see more and how the show develops now that Jennifer is back in lawyer mode.

So yes, as ever, this kind of review bombing is incredibly childish and stupid. She-Hulk may not end up being the greatest MCU series ever, sure, but what’s happening here is not reflective of its quality whatsoever, and is yet another embarrassing comic book media fandom moment.

To read more go here.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultas...han-ms-marvel/


Note- A 77%RT score and average score 3.8/5 score are great scores.
RT SCORES
75%- /10 to 84% is great/4 stars

Average ratings
3.8/4.2- 4 stars(great)


But now on RT the audinence score went down and down because of more review bombing.

[tv horror]

I just wish that the MCU would go back to making more Winter Soldier type movies. It got it right on so many levels.