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    Default Should mutants be forced to leave a host body?

    With “The Waiting Room” and Resurrection, should any mutant occupying a human body be forced into an egg to be reborn?

    Malice kinda was.

    But what about Manslaughter??
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    What about Shatterstar who is inhabiting the body of a brain dead mutant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonewolf36 View Post
    What about Shatterstar who is inhabiting the body of a brain dead mutant
    He's what?????

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    Eh, that was a weird story from the 90s that was sorta....soft-retconned? Basically there was a mutant runaway named Benjamin Russell who for reasons that were never explained or explored, just so happens to look identical to Shatterstar except he didn't have the starburst tattoo around his eye. At some point after running away from home, Benjamin's mutant powers manifested and we were never told what they were, just that he'd been in a coma ever since then, and he was housed in some institute 'for the Criminally Insane' though again....we were never told WHY or given any info about what Benjamin did to be put there other than....he was a runaway who'd been in a coma since he was a teenager.

    Anyway, long story short, during some X-Force story in Mojoworld, Shatterstar was mortally wounded by Mojo and like...turned into some kind of digital ghost, and X-Force along with Longshot ended up at the institute where Benjamin Russell was in a coma, and Longshot did something wonky that merged Shatterstar's digital ghost/spirit thing with Russell's body, and from then on Shatterstar was in Russell's body which now had his starburst tattoo and thus was literally identical to his original body, and allegedly after the 'merge' Shatterstar had memories of both his original life as well as Benjamin's life, though of course we never got any details on what that looked like and still know absolutely nothing about him to this day.

    And then back after the 198/Civil War post M-Day era, Marvel decided 'eh we just don't want to deal with anything about that story, it sucked' and just....declared that something had happened offpanel, and despite never even learning WHY they were able to merge in the first place, Benjamin and Shatterstar were no longer merged and the latter had his original body back somehow and who the **** knows what happened to Benjamin and they were basically just like shhhh nobody ask any questions, we regret that story very much and it is over now.

    But yeah, it was a weird story but its fine, its completely irrelevant now and the bad nonsensical plot can't hurt anyone anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbysWorld View Post
    Eh, that was a weird story from the 90s that was sorta....soft-retconned? Basically there was a mutant runaway named Benjamin Russell who for reasons that were never explained or explored, just so happens to look identical to Shatterstar except he didn't have the starburst tattoo around his eye. At some point after running away from home, Benjamin's mutant powers manifested and we were never told what they were,
    Originally Shatterstar's mutant power was some sort of rarely used powerful energy blast, but PAD later had him able to create X-shaped teleportals to anywhere significant to him, or someone related to or connected to him (so, his dad, Longshot, or his boyfriend, Rictor), and that was implied to be the power he got from Benjamin. But yeah, weirdness, and who even knows if it's remotely canon any longer.

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    How many mutants are running around in bodies that are not their own?
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsan52 View Post
    With “The Waiting Room” and Resurrection, should any mutant occupying a human body be forced into an egg to be reborn?

    Malice kinda was.

    But what about Manslaughter??
    Yes. Just like Malice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    How many mutants are running around in bodies that are not their own?
    Betsy was.
    Shadow King does.
    Manslaughter is….

    Not sure if there are more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsan52 View Post
    Betsy was.
    Shadow King does.
    Manslaughter is….

    Not sure if there are more.
    The Shadow King is out of Farouk, who is now himself.

    They brought back Farouk in his own body. But he still had a bit of the Shadow King in him, which the New Mutwnts helped him vanquish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    How many mutants are running around in bodies that are not their own?
    To be pedantic for fun here. If we define "their own" as in the body they were born with or one they created with their own power, anyone who got brought back via the krakoan cloning method would count for the duration of still being in the body they Five created. Since those are all physical copies of their now dead original bodies made by other people with foreign power and technology.

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    So...just Manslaughter then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutekh View Post
    Originally Shatterstar's mutant power was some sort of rarely used powerful energy blast, but PAD later had him able to create X-shaped teleportals to anywhere significant to him, or someone related to or connected to him (so, his dad, Longshot, or his boyfriend, Rictor), and that was implied to be the power he got from Benjamin. But yeah, weirdness, and who even knows if it's remotely canon any longer.
    PAD, during his X-Factor run, is on record for refusing to touch the entire Benjamin Russell debacle of Jeph Leob's making (Leob was leaving the original X-Force series and, although the scenario had an interesting lead-up, its conclusion was one massive nonsensical fustercluck). It was also NEVER implied that 'Star's teleportation ability came from Benjamin. It seemed to be something that happened when 'Star (off-panel) returned to the Mojoworld of his timeline (100 years in the future) after the 198/Civil War event.

    I had an interesting chat via Twitter with Tim Seeley during the Shatterstar miniseries and he said that 'Star hadn't lost his vibratory shockwave generation power. Remember how his swords turned to blue light sabers when he battled on Horus IV? Seeley said he was channeling that power through his swords. That means the teleportation ability, however it was gained, is a rare secondary mutation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    How many mutants are running around in bodies that are not their own?
    Would Sinister count?
    You brought back Wolverine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    So...just Manslaughter then.
    Isn't Proteus running around in Charles' body too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncanny X-Man View Post
    Isn't Proteus running around in Charles' body too?
    Well that's a different issue entirely, since its a voluntary 'contribution' on Xavier's part.

    (A stupid one, if you ask me....given that Exiles established post-House of M that Proteus can inhabit Kevin Sydney aka Changeling/Morph's body without it degrading due to certain inherent aspects of his shape-shifting. So instead of regularly having Proteus burn through Xavier husks and replacing them, they should just make him a husk out of Sydney's DNA that WON'T need to be replaced.)

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