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    Default What’s Molly Mayne’s stays since Alan Scott came out?

    Is she still alive? Dead?
    What’s her opinion on Alan’s new status?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    Is she still alive? Dead?
    What’s her opinion on Alan’s new status?
    I think we're currently in the "avoid Molly at all costs" stage of Alan's coming out because if that relationship isn't handled exactly right then Alan's going to come off as a tremendous *******.

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    As long as they aren't married anymore the better for everybody. I really hated that marriage, Alan basically married his crazy stalker.

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    My head canon says that Molly knew Alan was gay. Her teasing was something that may not be appropriate today, but in the day could have been considered funny. Now as time passed, Molly existence as Alan's beard served solved professional challenges and the pair probably did develop some respectful relations with each other even if Alan had few, if any, romantic feelings. A marriage for show seemed valid for those days.
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    How did you spell 'status' wrong?

    Also she's not Jade's and Obsidian's mum so no one cares about her.
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    Has she even been in a comic since Blackest Night?
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    I'm not so familiar with Alan Scott continuity -- who was Jade and Obsidian's mother? They're pretty young so post-Crisis, were they supposedly conceived after the JSA came back from limbo? (or did Jade and Obsidian experience a timejump of their own?) I'm not clear on how the sliding timeline accounted for all that, even then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    How did you spell 'status' wrong?

    Also she's not Jade's and Obsidian's mum so no one cares about her.
    Respectfully, I care about Molly Mayne as a character.

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    I don't think DC put a lot of thought into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bored at 3:00AM View Post
    I think we're currently in the "avoid Molly at all costs" stage of Alan's coming out because if that relationship isn't handled exactly right then Alan's going to come off as a tremendous *******.
    But, why though? It's not like Alan is also in a secret relationship with a man or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Miller View Post
    But, why though? It's not like Alan is also in a secret relationship with a man or something like that.
    It really depends on how it's handled. If Molly was aware of Alan's secret the whole time, then it's a very different story than Alan marrying her but lying to her about his true self all those years since Tynion established that Alan's been well aware that he was gay since at least 1939. That would undercut Alan's heroism greatly to me because it would mean that Alan knowingly married a woman under false pretenses.

    Like I say, this is a subject that requires a lot of tack, care, and writing skill, and I simply do not have the confidence in DC's stable of writers to pull that off at the moment.

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    I'm all for saying Alan is bisexual. That could give validity to his old romances but not over complicate his prior stories. This is a situation that requires applying Occam's Razor and the simplest path is to just say Alan is bi sexual.

    Of all the JSA characters DC could have chosen to out they chose the one who had the wildest most interesting romantic life. The man married not one but two of his old super villains. The first one was his best friend's villain and he had two children with them. Then decades later married proto-Harley Quinn and later he fought through hell to rescue her soul and for all intents and purposes was happily married for decades.

    Everybody arguing for gay Alan Scott probably put more thought into it than DC did when they decided to out him.

    Alan was the wrong character to out. It should have been Ted Grant, Johnny Quick or any one of the Dr Midnite's that has been around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Venus View Post
    I'm all for saying Alan is bisexual. That could give validity to his old romances but not over complicate his prior stories. This is a situation that requires applying Occam's Razor and the simplest path is to just say Alan is bi sexual.

    Of all the JSA characters DC could have chosen to out they chose the one who had the wildest most interesting romantic life. The man married not one but two of his old super villains. The first one was his best friend's villain and he had two children with them. Then decades later married proto-Harley Quinn and later he fought through hell to rescue her soul and for all intents and purposes was happily married for decades.

    Everybody arguing for gay Alan Scott probably put more thought into it than DC did when they decided to out him.

    Alan was the wrong character to out. It should have been Ted Grant, Johnny Quick or any one of the Dr Midnite's that has been around.
    I agree. I get the idea behind saying a gay guy was closeted and so engaged in heterosexual relationships -- because it happens/happened. But it's getting really messy with Alan. It was a little less of a problem for Iceman since he was never married (Alan married twice -- and the second time he was in his 60s or 70s). Obviously they went with Alan because Green Lantern is a known commodity. Wildcat, Johnny Quick and Dr. Mid-Nite aren't. For simplicity's sake -- I think Jay may have been the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bored at 3:00AM View Post
    I think we're currently in the "avoid Molly at all costs" stage of Alan's coming out because if that relationship isn't handled exactly right then Alan's going to come off as a tremendous *******.
    It's exactly this. They're probably going to have her be dead so they can say that he stayed in the closet to make sure he never had to break her heart.


    I've seen some calls for Jay, which I disagree with entirely given how affectionate he's always been with his wife and how often their marriage is highlighted. They're the sweethearts of the Golden Age.

    As for Doc Mid-Nite, Pieter is bisexual in my own head canon, though that's mostly based on the rumors I've heard that Wagner intended him to be gay, his established relationships with women, and the interesting angle of a religious man reconciling his faith with his sexual orientation. I think it takes nothing away from him and only adds/enhances his narrative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    As for Doc Mid-Nite, Pieter is bisexual in my own head canon, though that's mostly based on the rumors I've heard that Wagner intended him to be gay, his established relationships with women, and the interesting angle of a religious man reconciling his faith with his sexual orientation. I think it takes nothing away from him and only adds/enhances his narrative.
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