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    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    Markovia was destroyed by Leviathan and Deathstroke used his sister to get back at the Titans, then she died. He has a lot of reasons to have Talia and Deathstroke.
    Terra is alive, but the point still stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Cyclist View Post
    Why doesn't Bruce acknowledge that it was his and Selina's plan to send Damian in to begin with? That it was his and Selina's idea, as was brought up in King's run, to send Damian in and get Alfred out, to act as a hostage that Thomas Wayne wouldn't kill and would underestimate, and to have Damian take out Gotham Girl so that everyone else can go in?

    Probably because Bruce really sucks at taking responsibility for his actions and for when his plans backfire.
    If Bruce did the logical thing then we wouldn't have dozens of issues about Damian leaving him. Characters act stupid so that DC could publish new comics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HsssH View Post
    If Bruce did the logical thing then we wouldn't have dozens of issues about Damian leaving him. Characters act stupid so that DC could publish new comics.
    Don't you just love Character Drama that relies on characters acting stupid ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Don't you just love Character Drama that relies on characters acting stupid ?
    Didn't we get enough of that in King's run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue22 View Post
    Didn't we get enough of that in King's run?
    This makes King's run seem reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    This makes King's run seem reasonable.
    No it doesn't. Nothing can make King's run seem reasonable.

    However, this does have fewer plot holes than King's run, and does carry on the characterization of Bruce as a self absorbed narcissist borderline sociopath from King's run.

    So there's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king81992 View Post
    Terra is alive, but the point still stands.
    Yeah especially since Terra being alive is a recent Rebirth era retcon and she was dead for a few decades, so I think it still stands.
    "It's fun and it's cool, so that's all that matters. It's what comics are for, Duh."
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HsssH View Post
    If Bruce did the logical thing then we wouldn't have dozens of issues about Damian leaving him. Characters act stupid so that DC could publish new comics.
    was going on vacation with his not wife not logical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rac7d* View Post
    was going on vacation with his not wife not logical?
    Is that a trick question ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Why didn't Bruce just say that to Damian to begin with? For the sake of stretching it out to the climax?
    Probably the same reason why he didn't just say that Damian in Alfred RIP where he let Damian take the blame for breaking the rule and entering Gotham during City of Bane thereby leading to Alfred's death.

    This plot line has been stretched out through 4 titles and 6 writers :
    King's Batman
    Tomasi and Tynion's Alfred RIP
    TT by Glass and Thompson
    Robin by Williamson

    Thank God is finally over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    Markovia was destroyed by Leviathan and Deathstroke used his sister to get back at the Titans, then she died. He has a lot of reasons to hate Talia and Deathstroke.
    I see.. So for this he wanted both dead.

    I knew about what Talia made... But not Deathstroke.

    Quote Originally Posted by king81992 View Post
    Terra is alive, but the point still stands.
    Oh... So that sister is her. Of course. They have the same or similar powers.

    Then more than enough reasons to hate him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPSparkles View Post
    Probably the same reason why he didn't just say that Damian in Alfred RIP where he let Damian take the blame for breaking the rule and entering Gotham during City of Bane thereby leading to Alfred's death.

    This plot line has been stretched out through 4 titles and 6 writers :
    King's Batman
    Tomasi and Tynion's Alfred RIP
    TT by Glass and Thompson
    Robin by Williamson

    Thank God is finally over.
    I'm so over Batfamily drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I'm so over Batfamily drama.
    This is why I'm so glad for Wayne Family Adventures. The biggest drama so far, was Jason breaking into Bruce's safe houses and crashing there for a night or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    This is why I'm so glad for Wayne Family Adventures. The biggest drama so far, was Jason breaking into Bruce's safe houses and crashing there for a night or two.
    WFA is too saccharine sweet. So much that I'm no longer following it. Extremes are never good. no matter what it is, Too much of it is too much. WFA needs some cut it down on the sweet cuteness. that's gotten boring. I used to love it now it irritates my gag reflex.

    Jason breaking into the safe house isn't the biggest drama thus far. What! That was a gag and zero drama.

    Tim feeling frustrated and hurt over Dick never having time for him is the biggest drama thus far. Dude you need to stop viewing everything through Todd coloured glasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    This is why I'm so glad for Wayne Family Adventures. The biggest drama so far, was Jason breaking into Bruce's safe houses and crashing there for a night or two.
    WFA is fun and there's some good stuff but a little too driven by comedy and fanfic ideas.

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