Winnie The Pooh: Blood and Honey

[Matt Rat]

A mysterious upcoming horror film titled Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey has appeared on our radar today, and we have questions. The very indie horror title is reportedly in post-production from writer/director Rhys Frake-Waterfield and stars Amber Doig-Thorne, Maria Taylor and Danielle Scott. According to the project’s IMDb page, the film is a grisly retelling of the Winnie the Pooh “legend”.

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[JBatmanFan05]

I guess this is what we can expect when things enter the public domain.

I think I prefer the title: "Winnie The Pooh: Blood Honey"...instead of "blood money" it's blood honey, but I guess that title will have to wait for the Winnie the Pooh crime thriller/noir.

[Frontier]

People keep trying to sell me on everything needing to be public domain, but this sounds terrible. Who would want a horror take on Pooh Bear? I'd rather get another Disney cartoon.

[JBatmanFan05]

People keep trying to sell me on everything needing to be public domain, but this sounds terrible.

Really? Never participated in such arguments (nor do I agree with any argument that everything immediately should be public domain). But I guess I will merely point out that, for example, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (comics, film, etc) is something that can come out of things entering the public domain.

I'm sure there are a whole host of books, films, shows that many have enjoyed that are built upon the public domainness of the main characters. Media that would not have financial backing or greenlighting were it not for the public domain aspect.

[thwhtGuardian]

People keep trying to sell me on everything needing to be public domain, but this sounds terrible. Who would want a horror take on Pooh Bear? I'd rather get another Disney cartoon.

There can be both a new Disney cartoon...and what ever the heck this is, it needn't be a one way street.

[Frontier]

Really? Never participated in such arguments (nor do I agree with any argument that everything immediately should be public domain). But I guess I will merely point out that, for example, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (comics, film, etc) is something that can come out of things entering the public domain.

I'm sure there are a whole host of books, films, shows that many have enjoyed that are built upon the public domainness of the main characters. Media that would not have financial backing or greenlighting were it not for the public domain aspect.

Oh I'm sure good stuff comes out of stuff going into the public domain, just that I don't see it as being necessary for everything (would Big Two properties be better in the public domain? I don't automatically think so).

There can be both a new Disney cartoon...and what ever the heck this is, it needn't be a one way street.

I mean, if the other street is something like this...I can't say I see the appeal/need. It just seems like horror schlock with a character created for children.

[thwhtGuardian]

Oh I'm sure good stuff comes out of stuff going into the public domain, just that I don't see it as being necessary for everything (would Big Two properties be better in the public domain? I don't automatically think so).

I mean, if the other street is something like this...I can't say I see the appeal/need. It just seems like horror schlock with a character created for children.

I don't see the appeal to this film either...so I won't watch it, no harm no foul. But other stuff could be better, and books collecting the original stories can become more readily available and cheaper than they currently are which is good.

[Mark Trail]

I can't say I see the appeal/need. It just seems like horror schlock with a character created for children.

Why would anyone at this site be surprised at someone doing this? From Archie Zombies to DC Vampires to Darkhold Marvel and more it's nothing but unrelenting corruption of characters created for children into horror schlock and ultra violence by their own publishers.

At this point, I say Public Domain for these characters can't come fast enough. Sure, we might get "horror Pooh," but we might also get stories that harken back to an age when these characters were aspirational, heroic and fun rather than grim, nasty and frightening.

[Mark Trail]

People keep trying to sell me on everything needing to be public domain, but this sounds terrible. Who would want a horror take on Pooh Bear? I'd rather get another Disney cartoon.

Looking at what Disney just did with Peter Pan in Chip and Dale I think you're being overly optimistic that the Disney corporation would not do the exact same thing if they thought they could make enough money from it.

[AdamFTF]

People keep trying to sell me on everything needing to be public domain, but this sounds terrible. Who would want a horror take on Pooh Bear? I'd rather get another Disney cartoon.

Not everything needs to be public domain. But everything should eventually enter it just as new things should always be created that will remain under copyright for a while. The other option is for works to be constantly tied up in IP dynasties linked to either families and corporations.

Honestly, I expected this to happen. Low budget horror creators are some of the quickest to scoop up public domain characters, because no one is more capable of creating content quickly and cheaply than those guys. But it doesn't mean there won't be other interesting, creative, respectful takes.

The public domain makes the dissemination of the original works easier. It also makes creating new takes on old stories and characters easier, but it's harder to tell which ones wouldn't have been created without the public domain (unless you're absolutely sure the creators are strapped for cash). Would Muppet Treasure Island have existed if the Hensons had to negotiate with the descendants of Robert Louis Stevenson? Would we have gotten The Lunar Chronicles without the fairy tales they're based on in the public domain? John Boorman's Excalibur? BBC's Sherlock? Neil Gaiman's The Graveyard Book (which is based on The Jungle Book, if no one's figured that out yet)? Pinocchio, Vampire Slayer (which sounds terrible but is surprisingly good)?

Heck, we definitely had an uptick in Oz material after Baum's books entered the public domain and some of it was dismal like NBC's Emerald City, but some was also fantastic like Amazon's Lost in Oz. So, don't give up on the concept of the public domain just because someone's going to make a B horror movie.

[titanfan]

People keep trying to sell me on everything needing to be public domain, but this sounds terrible. Who would want a horror take on Pooh Bear? I'd rather get another Disney cartoon.

As a Pooh hater, I would totally watch a horror take on it.

[Frontier]

As a Pooh hater, I would totally watch a horror take on it.

As a Pooh lover, I can't say I'm enthusiastic .

[Powerboy]

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Well, there's a movie I'll never see. Right up there with Archie horror series, which I've felt no desire to see.

[thwhtGuardian]

Well, there's a movie I'll never see. Right up there with Archie horror series, which I've felt no desire to see.

The Archie horror books were actually fantastic, you're missing out.

[Guy1]

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This sounds gloriously stupid.

I'm in.