Hey Slott, next time, you should pitch an X-Men/Doctor Who crossover. Hellion would be the perfect foil for the Doctor AND the Master. And he already has robot hands, ao he'd make a good Cyberman or Dalek, as well.
True, I do have my biases and the lack of context as to what the exact plan was had it gone forward.
Guess I still don't see why the two are a good mix, but fair enough if people involved liked the pitch in and of itself.
Star Trek and Star Wars were always my thing and, somehow, Doctor Who seemed lacking in substance to me somehow. Not sure how to explain it, but there it is. (Also, Doctor Who's lack of continuity kinda bugs me, although, with Star Trek now using the same model, I'm trying to learn to get over those kind of things.
Well, I am very opinionated on Spider-Man.
Like I said before, there were many parties at Marvel that were keen on the project too.
Okay. Guess I think having logic to the crossover to being with makes for a better foundation for storytelling, but fair enough that it depends on the approach. Heck, I did like that Transformers/Star Trek crossover mini by IDW (sequel, please) that, on paper had no connection beyond "two classic sci-fi cartoons of days past."
Maybe? Hard to judge an elevator pitch. I can follow the logic of Lizard and Doctor Who lizard aliens.
Well, we can't judge what was never made. So, while I can't say that the concept clicks with me, it would be unfair to say that it would never work either.
Peace.
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It depends, what may sound like a "bad" idea can work with proper execution, so while in theory a crossover with Doctor Who sounds grossly unfitting for Spidey, it can work with the proper execution.
I mean shit, in Immortal Hulk it was retconned that some random Super Satan is what powers up the Hulks, Hulk himself was more or less science based, but now has this connection with cosmic shit, and it works, better than it should, even if it initially sounds like a bad idea.
On the Spider-Man franchise itself, we have Venom, who for a long time, was seen as one of Spidey's most iconic villains (And it probably still is around some parts of the fanbase, even after his solo movie), originally he was an alien suit from Secret Wars, itself a step away from Spidey's usual adventures, and while he serves little importance to it (Which's mostly how it goes when he shows up in crossovers anyways), it affected him in a huge way, by making a random alien suit affect his life this badly (And no one else got such a huge consequence from Secret Wars).
While adaptations remove the Secret Wars part of it, they almost always make Venom an alien, even if it's an alien that randomly got in a ship, and while we do have the version of Venom on Ultimate that was created on Earth and is even connected with Spider-Man more directly by being an attempt at making an anti-suit cancer (Which makes me wonder how in the fuck hell they failed that badly at doing that and instead made a cannibal), other adaptations mostly don't use that, even though Ultimate is a huge influence in how Spidey's adaptations are made, they mostly make Venom an alien.
In the original his appearances are glorified cameos anyways, he just gets worried about MJ, thinks he may not return from the battle, then dies, and then gets resurrected lol.
Then again, it'd be weird if he got too much attention in the original, most heroes are glorified extras, Infinity Gauntlet was at its heart a Thanos/Warlock story, though a few of them get to be more than glorified extras who get killed by Thanos at least, but again, characters like Strange are the exception, not the rule.
Was Slott even a comic writer 30 years ago to have been able to pitch it back when Marvel had Doctor Who yet? Lol.
Y'know I'm surprised more people besides Kevin haven't replied with confusion over your posts around here .
Then again, DarthFury78 shows up once in a while saying a random female should team-up with Spidey, so I guess someone asking about Hellion stands out less lol.
That Batman/Ninja Turtle crossover movie is better than it should too lol.
I also hear that the crossover comic about Justice League and Power Rangers is pretty fun as well.
With the existence of the Spider-verse and the Master Weaver, I don't see the point of Spider-Man making a crossover with Doctor Who, honestly.
It was. I'm still waiting on a sequel to follow up on that epilogue. As for Batman/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, that was based on an actual crossover comic series from a few years back. And Power Rangers crossed over with TMNT, too, with Shredder stealing the Green Ranger's morpher and using it to become the Ranger Shredder (as I'd call him) after the Green Ranger tried to infiltrate the Foot Clan to save an old friend of his and got discovered.
The spider is always on the hunt.
Those were fun stories to read.
I have to say, however, that the Power Rangers would work much better on the Marvel Universe; because the Marvel Universe has a lot of experience with giant monsters and using mechs to fight them. And the same goes to the Ninja Turtles, because they live in New York, just like most of Marvel's heroes. Spider-Man even has a trace of most of all four turtles (Leonardo - responsability, Donatello - intelligence, Michaelangelo - attitude, Raphael - inner anger and self blaming).
Spider-Man with Doctor Who sounds weird.
Maybe:
- Captain Britain
- Fantastic Four
- Captain Marvel
"Cable was right!"
You know what the funny part is? I'm watching Morbius right now, and it feels like every Doctor actor is contracted to play a villain role in a comic based property:
- John Hurt is evil president in V for Vendetta
- Peter Capaldi as The Thinker in The Suicide Squad
- David Tennant is Zebediah Kilgrave, not called Purple Man in Jessica Jones
- Matt Smith as evil counterpart of hero in Morbius
And this thread title reminds me that Andrew Garfield appeared in one episode of the Doctor before he played Spider-Man.
I'm up for this crossover.
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Funny enough, all three of those have also teamed up with Spider-Man, and the first one was even his roommate in their civilian alter egos for a while.
Interesting.
I should mention that Tennant's character in Jessica Jones, the version of Killgrave he played . . . well, his real name in-series was Kevin Thompson and he made the choice to call himself Kilgrave. That aside, this would be an interesting crossover to pull off.
The spider is always on the hunt.
I forgot that about him, haven't seen that season since I first finished it in 2015.
I watched season 1 of Iron Fist more times than I did Jessica Jones.
I haven't followed The Doctor to remember it, but this is an interesting thing to note.
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