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    Default X-men unlimited 40. Ending of kaiju eany, laura is depressed

    Meany is eating Emma's arm.
    Emma "get it off me, that's the one part of my body not insured"

    Maggot gives eany to laura " your the only one me and eany trust, take eany"
    Laura "I'm really not used to siting on the sideline"
    Maggot "don't worry I got this with friendship and meany"
    He jumps in to big eany, and starts to get desloved by stomach acid.
    M "ive made terrible mistake"

    Laura with eany "it's OK little sluge thing, I'll protect you, why are you drawing my claws on the ground and raming you head with my fist ?" No, the sacrificing mutants is over, Emma was crazy when she said killing you was the answer, is ok Maggot will save us, please, he'll hate me, i dont want to hurt people i care about anymore..."
    Eany "sad sluge noises"
    Laura .....

    Maggot is able to drain power becaue of somting changed
    Maggot " I'm jacked now; we did it and proved killing other eany was wrong and Emma was wrong. Hi Laura, why are you crying and look full of depression guilt and regret ? Where's eany ?"
    Laura "please don't hate me "
    Time skip

    Laura "hi maggot"
    Maggot "I hate you and my slugs hate you, and i regret knowing you"
    Laura "I get it you've been though alot and need some time alone"
    Maggot "no I hate you, all of us do."
    Laura "sad depression noises'

    Emma to laura "all you other friends got pushed away from you so you should be used to this by now. "
    Laura (more depression and guilt)

    Emma "sorry about that, remorse is what separate you from you from monster like Creed, the ablity to make hard choices is what makes you a xmen, you the best at what you do."

    Laura depressing "what I do isn't very nice"

    The moral of the story is Laura should never try to make friends because she'll just end up hurting them and Emma is right in all things. I think......

    Took a depressing turn at the end buy maybe next week is the murder train that is xmen Greens return ?

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    Great summary once again!

    Does anyone know who is standing next to Chamber?
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    Emma to laura "all you other friends got pushed away from you so you should be used to this by now. "
    That's a sick burn and also completely true. Sorry writers keep f'ing you over, Laura.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rift View Post
    That's a sick burn and also completely true. Sorry writers keep f'ing you over, Laura.
    TBH, Laura NEEDS to be called out on how shitty of a friend she is. AFAIK she STILL hasn't tried to do something to help Kiden Nixon and her gang.

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    was emma in diamond form when her arms was getting eaten?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
    TBH, Laura NEEDS to be called out on how shitty of a friend she is. AFAIK she STILL hasn't tried to do something to help Kiden Nixon and her gang.
    That would require writers and editors to actualy care about having a contiuity with their characters, rather than them jumping around in terms of personality, status and relationship with other people, so they can be slapped into a role or story as the writer wants, rather than what fits the character anymore.

    The late of what seems to be the standard right now. As if the 3 month rule of wrestling got adapated.

    If the writer doesn't know or care about NYX nobody from it will show up or be alluded to in a X-23 story.

    Quote Originally Posted by carmoc1234 View Post
    was emma in diamond form when her arms was getting eaten?
    Not that it would do her much good, given that the slugs are basicly matter disassemblers.

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    How I wish this comic was better. The one chance Maggot gets of a story featuring him and it's so mediocre. X-men Unlimited as a whole is a big missed opportunity to have good tales about underused characters.

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    I didn't know my depression could skyrocket this much after only one comics, but yeah. That was quite brutal ending to this mini-series.

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    When it’s not destroying your favorites through eco-terrorism it’s doing it with misery porn. Unlimited Misery Porn!

    Now back to the cannibal serial killer

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    Who is the blond mutant? I first thought Magma, then I saw the tubes on the back, thought Pyro, but he looks different. Then I thought Cypher, but he does not have those powers. I am lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rift View Post
    That's a sick burn and also completely true. Sorry writers keep f'ing you over, Laura.
    I would correct that to X-23 pushed all her friends away, not they 'got pushed away' from her. Big distinction, because Liu and Co. went out of their way to not just to have her purposely destroy Hellion (in-world and out), but to actively question whether Laura ever really considered Mercury, Dust, et. al. friends at all. (I think she did consider them friends and/or family and then completely shut them out when she got her new 'pack', which just makes how she treated all of them even worse.)

    I think they just can't decide how much human and how much 'animal' Laura's supposed to be, so they just keep writing her as a crappy human, at least outside of combat. (With the exception of Gabby and her Wolverine family, but to me that just shows more animal because that's her ‘Pack’.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
    TBH, Laura NEEDS to be called out on how shitty of a friend she is. AFAIK she STILL hasn't tried to do something to help Kiden Nixon and her gang.
    This is my biggest problem with X-23! I loved her at the beginning when they had this lost, broken, scared teenage girl who didn't know if she would ever be a 'real person'. And they gave her these amazing friends who supported her and loved her despite being weird and scary and doing terrible stuff. I thought this was going to be a great story where Laura and Hellion redeem each other, even if they have their ups and downs in the friendship/relationship, and they would contrast Laura from Logan because she has this support system and can choose to be better than what the Weapon-X program made her. (In my mind, Logan and Cyke were the bad guys who manipulated Laura into keep killing for them when she should've been at school working on being a 'real girl' instead of a weapon.)

    But then Liu comes in and the fact is Liu just isn’t a good writer. Forget that Laura 'broke up' with Hellion. I always thought that was the right call editorially because they were both too screwed up to have a meaningful relationship at that point, particularly since she was growing up to the big leagues and he was left to flounder in high school limbo. But Liu didn’t SHOW any changes in Laura to explain WHY she would just better-deal all the people who supported her the second they weren't useful anymore. That’s why she needed the scene with Gambit after the breakup, because Liu forgot to SHOW us the why one minute Laura is trading a piece of her soul for the boy she loves, and the next she completely ghosts him without any explanation or development in-between.

    (The way I read it Laura ghosted Hellion long before the kiss in NY and the ‘breakup’. He went with Wolverine partially because he hated Scott more, but probably also because he figured the only good thing left in his life would be around her ‘dad’. And what does Laura do for her best friend who was always there for her? No calls. No letters. No emails. Not even a smoke signal to check in on him. And when she does show up, she tells him she isn’t there to see him. She was there to see Logan and either didn’t know or care that a PTSDed and probably suicidal Hellion was there, or both. She just blows him off and goes with Logan and Gambit.)

    To me, this was Laura acting more like an animal in that once she left her first ‘pack’ she never gave them a second thought. And that runs counter to what Liu was trying to do in humanizing Laura throughout the Solo series. It also made me question whether Laura is a real person or will always be what the X-Program made her.

    I would've rather seen Liu try to actually develop Laura's character into a young woman who is starting to understand her ‘human’ feelings and maturing after everything she went through in the Solo. Contrast Liu’s story with what Liu could’ve done with a touching scene where Laura and Hellion part with a kiss and Laura saying something like:

    ‘I’ve changed since we last saw each other. You’re my best friend and I love you. A part of me will always love you like that, too. But you’re as fcuked up as I am, and we both need to grow up and slay our own demons. I can’t help you right now because I have my own issues I need to deal with in places you can’t—and I won’t allow you to risk yourself—following me. So stop thinking about me and go get the help you need, but I hope when you become the man I know you can be and I become the woman I hope I can be we meet again and we are in a place to make this work because you are my best friend and I will always support you in my own way.’

    That shows personal growth and maturity for Laura, as well as getting her more connected with her human emotions, which I thought was the whole point of that Solo series. It also leaves them open to more stories whichever way they decide to take the characters in the future, instead of years (inworld) of them randomly sharing panels without speaking.

    It seemed to me like Liu was just trying to make Hellion such a creep that it gives Laura an excuse to give Jubilee a try, even though I don’t think there were any indications she was bi- at the time. But to me the worst part about Liu’s writing was she could’ve had a panel or two SHOWING the change in Laura towards Hellion—whatever reason she wanted to give—instead of having to TELL us in the gambit scene afterwards.

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    This was not good but not as terrible as X-Men Green, so is a win I guess. I hope Maggot gets another chance to shine in the next decade, sadly this will probably be the most relevance he will get in the Krakoan era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imbatman1206 View Post
    I would've rather seen Liu try to actually develop Laura's character into a young woman who is starting to understand her ‘human’ feelings and maturing after everything she went through in the Solo. Contrast Liu’s story with what Liu could’ve done with a touching scene where Laura and Hellion part with a kiss and Laura saying something like:

    ‘I’ve changed since we last saw each other. You’re my best friend and I love you. A part of me will always love you like that, too. But you’re as fcuked up as I am, and we both need to grow up and slay our own demons. I can’t help you right now because I have my own issues I need to deal with in places you can’t—and I won’t allow you to risk yourself—following me. So stop thinking about me and go get the help you need, but I hope when you become the man I know you can be and I become the woman I hope I can be we meet again and we are in a place to make this work because you are my best friend and I will always support you in my own way.’
    That would have been way beyond her communication skills at the time.
    Context is king.

    X-23's most basic surface level characteristic that any idiot should grasp: Stoicism.
    I don't demand that her every minor appearance be a nuance in-depth examination of her character, but is it to much to ask she be written in Archetype?! This is storytelling 101! If you want people to stay invested in a character, you need to, at the bare minimum, write them such a way that they can plausibly be believed to be the same character!

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    This wasn't too bad. Maggot and his naivety, caused for a lot of unnecessary hurt as destruction. The longer he waited to do something about Eany, the much more difficult of a situation Laura was pit in. He never meant to hurt anyone but in the end he ended up putting such a burden on both Laura and Eany. Laura was forced with saving the island and protecting her friend and maintaining the trust between them.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Milici View Post
    This was not good but not as terrible as X-Men Green, so is a win I guess. I hope Maggot gets another chance to shine in the next decade, sadly this will probably be the most relevance he will get in the Krakoan era.
    Too many characters in one place.
    For some it suggest that everyone could potentialy join a team or have a moment in the sun, but the truth seems more that allready sidelined characters are even more sidelined into roles of backround filler or bit players in forgetable mini stories.

    Because the writers are now even more free to pick their favorits and use the usualy subjects, because there is no more enforced team and character continuity in the way of who can be readily used and who can't, rather than having to deal with a more limited selection of characters, either from who is aviable or who is still there and can't just be thrown out.

    So less encouragement to pull out lesser used characters to fill spots or keep using them after they have been put on teams by previous writers.
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