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    Quote Originally Posted by maxi_miceli View Post
    She is appearing in the next issue of UXM, so that may happen there, I really hope that is Hope trying to ask for forgiveness and him giving her the cold shoulder, I don't even want him to do it with Logan, but with Hope I really hope that he doesn't forgive her, at least not until she does something to earn that forgiveness
    Like what reboot the mutant race or stop him from destroying the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CongoJack View Post
    Like what, reboot the mutant race or stop him from destroying the world?
    Doing exactly what he wanted her to do from the beginning, after she sided with those who wanted her to prevent it from happening, with that being one of the main reasons he lost against the Phoenix is not something worth for redeeming her, at most is something that prevents her from ending up worse.
    And it was Jean who stopped the Phoenix, Jean took the role that Scott had in the original DPS, of stopping the Dark Phoenix and helping the host to regain control of it, Hope did the job of Xavier, the thug that using the renewed control of the Phoenix by the host they attack him/her, the difference is that unlike Jean, Scott wasn't a fit host so the Phoenix left him at that moment

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    Arguing the writing of AVX isn't going to get anyone anywhere it was as poorly written as anything we have ever seen but one thing that did make sense was Hope getting the hell out of Dodge Pheonix-clops had all but told her she didn't deserve the power, the very next move in the cliche playbook would be to remove her from the equation all together so for her an enemy of an enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CongoJack View Post
    Arguing the writing of AVX isn't going to get anyone anywhere it was as poorly written as anything we have ever seen but one thing that did make sense was Hope getting the hell out of Dodge Pheonix-clops had all but told her she didn't deserve the power, the very next move in the cliche playbook would be to remove her from the equation all together so for her an enemy of an enemy.
    Cyclops didn't even let the rest kill Hawkeye, what reason would she have to think that a guy who could easily go killing everyone in his sight and always refused to kill would kill her, when she 1° didn't pose any threat at all, and 2° is his granddaughter and he has been taking care of her like such, and she even left with the Avengers straight after they came into Utopia by punching their friends when they were relaxing the first thing they did when they entered was punch Velocidad in the gut when he was just playing console games, and they had attempted to murder her father and she saw that, and they even attempted to kill her several times, it was completely ooc writing to make the Avengers look like the good guys when we knew since before AvX started that if they succeed they were going to destroy the world

    And really, giving food to the hungry, water to the thirsty and energy to the rest, such an evil guy, what's next, healing the sick? maybe preaching peace, who knows what that sick monster would do next, for all we know he may even help old ladies cross the street
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    Your using logic where there wouldn't be any he was possessed by a cosmic force his motivations would tell him he likes having the power to give whales legs and just like when he almost killed Frost(the woman he loved) or when he did kill Xavier(his adopted father) he would see taking Hope out of it would be a good way to keep hold of the power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CongoJack View Post
    You're using logic where there wouldn't be any he was possessed by a cosmic force his motivations would tell him he likes having the power to give whales legs and just like when he almost killed Frost(the woman he loved) or when he did kill Xavier(his adopted father) he would see taking Hope out of it would be a good way to keep hold of the power.
    None of that happened at that point, all of that is a result of the Avengers taking Hope, at that point the only confrontation they had had is when the Avengers were fighting electrical monsters and Piotr stopped the fight started talking to the monsters and they agreed to give power to half Europe

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    Well she is nothing if not her father's daughter she was thinking a few moves ahead while like everyone else in the whole thing being written out of character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CongoJack View Post
    Well she is nothing if not her father's daughter she was thinking a few moves ahead while like everyone else in the whole thing being written out of character.
    She is nothing like her father, her father would never betray mutantkind, if she was like her father she would have saved the P5 from getting corrupted by the Phoenix, if Cable had been there he would have most likely stopped the Avengers by any mean necessary and maybe even avoiding the X-men from knowing, because anyone with at least half a brain knows that attacking the Phoenix is the worst idea that anyone can have, and that was most likely why Nathan wasn't there, because they couldn't have the Avengers coming as the heroes if Nathan had been there

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    What If...Cable Had Been Awake for AvX?

    Possibly the greatest What If? never written...

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    He would've tore the house down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21 View Post
    What If...Cable Had Been Awake for AvX?

    Possibly the greatest What If? never written...
    He would just kill Scott and his gang.
    "You don't ever quit. Not even to your last drop of blood. You got folks relyin' on you then you just can't afford to." Sean Noonan-Hitman #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by victorxd1999 View Post
    He would just kill Scott and his gang.
    You really know nothing about Cable do you? and you should read Avengers X-sanction
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21 View Post
    What If...Cable Had Been Awake for AvX?

    Possibly the greatest What If? never written...
    That should have been AvX what if, instead of that pathetic excuse of a story we were given

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxi_miceli View Post
    You really know nothing about Cable do you? and you should read Avengers X-sanction

    That should have been AvX what if, instead of that pathetic excuse of a story we were given
    Was kidding... it was a call back to the 90's where that would actually happen
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    I have said it before **** would not have gone down the way it did had Cable been around nobody would have died some people may have been brought back to life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21 View Post
    What If...Cable Had Been Awake for AvX?

    Possibly the greatest What If? never written...
    Cable might actually have saved that trainwreck of a story...

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